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The obvious answer is on-page optimisation, but since I get crawled daily I've played with this a few times - low kwd, high kwd, title, h tags. The only thing I havent changed yet are the meta tags, because I didn't think google put any weight on these. They currently have the keyphrase repeated once, near the beginning of both tags.
My site is shopping cart driven in asp code.
I have tried every type of on page optimaziation I can think of, but nothing happens at all.
Added: At the moment I tried allintext:keyword and I am on the same pretty good position as with allinanchor:
So it can't be on-page-optimaziation, can it?
greg
I didn't know about the allintext command. I've just used it and found that I too rank in the same position for this as with allinanchor.
As I said, the only thing I can think of is meta tags. I have noticed that a lot of sites seem to come up with their meta description tag as their description in the serps.
Example:
blue wigets -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf
the results would be exactly the same as the results when you use allin parameters.
my 30+ sites (both new and old) are not showing for regular search but for exclusion filters and allin paramters.
For my major keyword which is very competetive, I am #30 for a simple keyword search but climb up to #18 for a search using the allintext command.
What does this signify?
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The obvious answer is on-page optimisation
I doubt it.
This is my current standings for the particular keyphrase:
allintext: #4
allinanchor: #4
allintitle: #4
serps: not in top 300
I tried the -fsdf search, but that doesn't make any difference now (hasn't done since a few months after the florida update).
What reason can there be for the huge difference in rankings between the allin results and the serps? No other site in the top 10 of the allin results is affected and apart from my site the top 10 is almost unchanged in the serps.
There's obviously something I'm doing wrong or missing. Do the allin commands take into account over optimisation (high kw density etc..) - although I cant see that this would be the reason for the discrepancy.
Number three. Nice.
There must be a way around this silly filter* without having to use the -asdf 8 times! (*obviously, some people don't think it's a filter...but you know what I mean)
You also need to consider that even if the allin commands work the way you seem to think they work, which I very much doubt is the case, then you have the results of about 6 of the hundreds of factors in the algo available to you.
Big Dave, I appreciate your point and agree to an extent, but it seems more than coincidence that the results are almost identical with the allin commands, serps and -dfsfd -fds etc.. except for my site which is only different in the serps. #1-3 are all the same regardless of allin, -asd etc.
Wowsers! My site only returns when using the full -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf command after the keywords.
Number three. Nice.There must be a way around this silly filter* without having to use the -asdf 8 times! (*obviously, some people don't think it's a filter...but you know what I mean)
I know what you mean. If I appeared at #4 in the serps for this keyword I'd be looking at a huge number of visitors each day for my site. I advertise on the site ranked #1 and they get a ridiculous amount of traffic.
Thats a jump of 312 places in the UK index and who knows how many in the world index (I dont think I was even top 600). Perhaps the allintext doesn't take into account any penalties for over repetition of the keyword etc.. My rankings for all of the allin commands has stayed the same.
They are saying its some kind of probation given to either new sites or certain links pointing to new sites. I'm sceptical though as I've had newer sites than my main one that have not suffered with the same problem. One of my sites went up last may and has always ranked highly almost from day 1.
It seems like only a partial reprieve from the 'sandbox' (its been described as being 'on probabtion). I've been checking various other keyphrases and I still dont rank as highly as I do with the -fds -fsd etc.. parameters. As I mentioned www2 and www3 are knocking me back down a bit too. Still, it is quite promising.
What I've read today suggests that links you receive are credited to begin with, then it is these links which are 'sandboxed' for a number of months - affecting your rankings. So maybe a certain amount of links have been 'un-sandboxed' in the last few days, and once all of the links you should currently have credited to you do the same, then you should attain the rightful positions. This seems to ring true for me, as when google first counted my backlinks I appeared #1 for many keyphrases. After two weeks I dropped a certain percentage (# of places dependant on competitiveness of the phrase). Now I'm climbing again. I've certainly noticed that older, more established sites have been staying strong throughout. That all sounds confusing. I'd like to post the link to the article on this as it explains it much better, but it (quite rightly as its a competitor to ww) gets auto edited out.
I'd be very interested to hear your views and experiences on this.
Sometimes they test some new algo in certain datacenters.
allintitle, allinurl, allintext, allinanchor or keyphrase -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf -asdf
Why is that?
I've got another question for you: if I had a toll free and a "keyword specific" slogan in my header of my web site and all of the 5,000+ pages of my website were showing up as duplicate content according to Google based on the following search site:website address and then, I changed that text in the header to be an image so, Google will move past it to the rest of the content on my pages, do you think this will solve my problems of duplicate content issue with Google and my ranking problems?
I would be interested to know if you all have tried looking at your page from a semantic point of view.
I had a site that had been missing for quite a while even though it was sitting at the top when using the above type of filter bypasses.
After changing the page to incorporate some semantically supportive keywords, it found it's way to page 1 within 5 days (note..NOTHING else was changed during that time). I have since done this same thing on other sites I run and had the exact same results so it doesn't seem to be a fluke.
It seems to me that by placing the "-asdf -asdf..." after the search, you eliminate the semantic portion of the algo. Not so much a filter, just a different way of ranking the pages do to the exclusions.
I tried that and it didn't seem to help! What other ways could I semantically improve the page?
ex. "~blue ~widget" without the quotes.
Look through the SERPs at the words Google has in bold and make a list of all of them. These are at least SOME of the words Google sees as semantically similar or supporting of your phrase.
Then incorporate these words into your pages. I have found there is a BIG difference between what I would call a semantically supportive word and what Google considers semantically supportive.
search on google for your target phrase for the page but place a tilde (~) in front of each word
Interesting, and a great tip. Most of the words I'd already incorporated, but a few new ones came up I hadn't thought of. Thanks!
