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Link from all my sites to the selected one.

is it safe?

         

cyclinder

6:30 pm on Apr 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

This is my first post so bear with me. :)

During my webmaster life I've build around 100 different sites all under different domains.
They are all registered under one email and name(me).

Now I'd like to put a link to one, selected site from
all ~100 this domains to increase the site PR.

Is this is a safe technique to raise PR with Google?

Thanks for all replies!

Dimitri

Mark_A

8:18 am on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Dimitri, 100 sites and all your own, well you have been busy.

Your question while perfectly valid has no right answer.

We are all engaged in dancing around the issues pertaining to this all the time, whatever our objectives, methods and ethics.

I think if you search around in here you are likely to see the written opinion of some including Brett whose site this is and GoogleGuy who works for Google, that if what you do on your sites you are doing in the clear interests of human visitors it is unlikely that Google itself will intentionally penalise you.

However your action may be similar enough from a machine scanning point of view to tactics which are considered unethical - for your sites in reality to be penalised should Google change its algo in its attempts to remove unethical sites from results.

In this aim you might be wise to seek to avoid collatoral damage by avoiding doing things that naughty people are up to :-)

define naughty? define ethical? oh ... ok dont.

However I just looked for a potential client at their site and competitors. The whole of that sector seemed to be populated by cowboys using obvious networks of sites massive visible interlinking and all sorts of other easy to spot techniques.

So .. can I beat em genuinely without having to join them? I am not yet sure ...

I am sure that I can beat their sites from the point of view of the proportion of actual visitors to their sites that are converted to actual customers because their sites look absolute rubbish and are completely incompatible with the type of customer they are targetting.

However it would not matter if my site converted 90% of visitors into customers if there were only 1 visitor per year :-(

Sorry I got a little off the point there.

I hope it illustrates however that there is no absolutely right answer!

It all depends.

Edited
Added after post from DerekH :-) good point :-)
Welcome to webmasterworld Dimitri / cyclinder :-)

[edited by: Mark_A at 9:40 am (utc) on April 25, 2004]

DerekH

8:38 am on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nothing to add except one most important thing...

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, cyclinder!
DerekH

Mozart

2:04 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



My opinion...

100 sites linking to you -> no problem
You linking back to those 100 sites -> hmm, okay
the 100 sites linking to each other intensively and to you -> bad boy, Dimitri!

100 sites belonging to you -> hmmm....
100 sites belonging to you sitting on the same IP address -> where's that eject button?!

100 sites with different topics linking to their web designer -> well done, great work!
100 sites with same topic linking to the one common shop front -> now you've really blown it, Dimitri!

As I said, my opinion...

conroy

2:14 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Go ahead and link them all to the main site - it won't get you penalized or anything. Just don't link the main site back to them.

Extensive interlinking is tricky and not recommended if you don't know what you are doing.

cyclinder

4:22 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thank you guys!

You are very helpful.

I'll avoid crosslinking and backlinking.

By the way, I know one designer's site got banned
from google because of the small text size link
at the bottom of many sites designed by him.

That was about 1 year ago - its site was
returned to index after several emails to
Google of course.

IITian

5:00 pm on Apr 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I have problems with the whole issue of penalty for "excessive" crosslinking. If a link is considered to be a "vote", why should SEs restrict one's ability to "vote"?

Among other things, artificial boost in ranking because of boost in number of links with the targeted keywords is quoted as one of the factors. Which is better - 1000 PR4 transfer links all with <widget> as its anchor (ignoring some sort of "OOP" for using same anchor again and again) or one PR7 transfer link equivalent in PR transfer to 1000 PR4 transfer links with <widget> as their anchora? And the answer we all get is 1000 PR4 links.

I will argue that in a "number of links"-neutral algo, weighing anchor texts with the PR transfer, will not give any advantage to either of these two choices. And perhaps SEs should be like that.

Here the original poster is asking about 100 sites. If all are related, what's wrong with the arrangement suggested - all 100 sites linking to a main one, and the main site linking back to rest. Or even all 101 sites linking to each other! Won't this make navigation easier? Or does Google (or other SEs) expect us to post something like:

"I want to post the url of my other relevant site here but I might get penalized by Google and other SEs for possible violation of their TOSs and instead why don't you type in "kw1 kw2 kw3 kw4" in Google, and it will show up as number 1 (most of the time as of today yyyymmdd)"