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Traffic Share now that the Dust has Settled

How is everyone doing with respect to share of SE traffic

         

BeeDeeDubbleU

6:03 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Now that the dust has settled on the radical changes of the last few months I would be interested to see if anyone is seeing any real change in traffic share. We are hearing reports about Yahoo gains but I am not seeing any of this.

My sites in general enjoyed greater than 70% Google traffic pre November last year. Those that were adversely affected have lost all of this and effectively gained nothing from Yahoo et al.

This is in spite of my work on these sites pushing me to the top of the Yahoo results for many of my KWs. Is anyone else seeing significant increases in Yahoo traffic wrt where they were before?

europeforvisitors

10:53 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



Yahoo and MSN are down noticeably, and Google is up for my site.

trimmer80

10:55 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo Up significantly across multiple sites over 4 month period. Google Up over 6 months. MSN no grow (if not down). 50 - 65% google, 40 - 35% yahoo, 0-5% msn.

[edited by: trimmer80 at 10:59 pm (utc) on April 20, 2004]

mack

10:57 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The biggest gainer I have seen through my stats is Yahoo!

Perhaps the days of all those eggs in the one basket are nunbered.

Round 2 still to come I think if and when MSN show us what they are made of.

Mack.

palmpal

10:59 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

Yahoo now is my highest referrer, MSN second and Google now third. I'm not sure what this means but I would like to get my Google traffic back. Not really keeping up on the changes you spoke of, how can I tell what is causing the Google decrease and if it is something that I can correct?

Thanks!

Smoove3

11:01 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i'm down across the board :(

BeeDeeDubbleU

11:10 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<Yahoo now is my highest referrer, MSN second and Google now third. I'm not sure what this means but I would like to get my Google traffic back.>

Do you mean that you are seeing the same as me? By this I mean that you have lost all of your Google traffic?

mayor

11:23 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo #1
MSN #2
Google #3
Jeeves #4

BigDave

11:26 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google up evey month. Yahoo down around 30% since they dropped google, but google more than made up for the yahoo drop by delivering even more traffic.

Google 79.2%
Yahoo 10.8%
MSN 3%
AOL 2.1%

Yahoo and Google are the only ones with a fairly complete crawl. MSN only has about 3% of my pages.

ILuvSrchEngines

11:31 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



Yahoo up very well over the last few months. Almost enough traffic from Yahoo to make up for loss in Google traffic. Yahoo is the only thing that is saving me from shutting down my sites. MSN some traffic but not much, little change there last few months. Google virtually ZERO traffic all my sites, big Google Goose egg from the Google web site blocking $%$#@#$% bad words removed %#$$##@.

Yahoo big winner in the search engine wars and savior of my sites this year, so far.

ILuvSrchEngines

11:34 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)



>Yahoo #1
>MSN #2
>Google #3
>Jeeves #4

So Google is now competing with Jeeves. lol

I think that describes Google's direction pretty well from where I sit too.

deejay

11:59 pm on Apr 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Read 'em and weep. I do... regularly

63%- Yahoo
14%- MSN
12%- Ask Jeeves
3%- Google
2%- AltaVista
2%- Ask Jeeves UK
1%- Unknown search engines
1%- Dogpile
1%- Mamma

idoc

12:32 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For my day job site...Yahoo is #1 for me too, with MSN #2. I think all the pseudo-directories and hijackers that link to and cloak all my pages got most of my google traffic. :(

I do better with G for some sites I keep from home, but the patterns have all shifted on that traffic. It's just not the same.

hamster77

12:38 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It really varies over different sites.

Main site: massive amount of Google traffic still, way in excess of all the other referrers put togther. Google loves this one to bits. Then Yahoo, MSN, ASK, industry specific directories.

Other sites are variable, but the general trend on most of them is for a huge drop in Google traffic, with biggest increase from MSN and ASK, then Yahoo and a big increase in Dmoz referrals, especially on travel sites.

The one that's really surprised me is the big increase from MSN - way above any of the others on several sites. The problem is that it takes so long to get indexed that it's no help to the newer sites.

ridgway

12:40 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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finally started paying attention to yahoo search and msn since the switch. to my horror, turns out half my sites have some sort of penalty carried over from inktomi. top ten listings in google, nowhere in yahoo now. all industry related sites, there is crosslinking in what i consider a natural fashion, but each site i wrote myself, so i know the content is original. no cloaking, hidden text, or any of that stuff.

submitted one of the penalized sites to sitematch to see what happens (still pending), and for another, wrote a "can i get reviewed and back in the index?" email to yahoo as suggested over in the yahoo forum. one week later, haven't heard anything.

so to answer your question; used to be 70% google, 22% yahoo. now it's google 90%+ and aol. yahoo is but a trickle.

if anyone has had any similar experiences or advice with the carried over ink penalty, i'm all ears.

Dpeper

1:11 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo #1
MSN #2
Google #3
I dont get much from google anymore at all :(

Stefan

1:50 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For our site, Y is up slightly (to 25%), G down slightly (to 65%), MSN and the others about the same (10%).

We're definitely up overall though, probably by about 40%. Let the SE wars continue...

IITian

2:42 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google 90%+
Yahoo!, MSN 2% each (Slightly more than DMOZ referrals)

All new traffic this year has come through Google.

jimh009

5:03 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo use to refer about half as much as I got from Google until they made the switch.

Today, Yahoo only refers about as third as much as Google does.

So, for me Google is first by a huge margin, followed by Yahoo and then MSN.

webnewton

6:10 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo has come up a big way. No doubt it'll be the numero uno search engine soon.
It's amazing the way that they've strategised in the last one year ever sice they took over Overture.

Chndru

6:17 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do all these sites enjoy pretty much the same ranking on key terms?

Gory

6:55 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You are all comparing oranges to apples here, the right comparison should be, for the same search term, Google position #1 VS. Yahoo position #1.

BeeDeeDubbleU

7:02 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Gory. the question was not about positions. It was about traffic.

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7:22 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>comparing oranges to apples here

Depending upon the category that could be true. "Techies" love Google, so if you have a technical site Google will be your primary SE referrer.

Average Joe's like Yahoo and MSN, so for a site that appeals to the person in the street the numbers will look very different.

Then the issue of SERP's further confuses the numbers. Things are more settled now than 4 months ago, but things still shift about, especially in Google.

For my "Average Joe" sites the order is:

#1 Yahoo
#2 MSN
#3 Google
#4 AJ

There is only 7% between Yahoo and Google, the spread across the top 3 is narrow. AJ still makes a worthwhile contribution, but the rest are practically dead!

viggen

7:37 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am ranked much much better at Yahoo then at Google, still i get 80% from Google and 10% from Yahoo, hardly anyone is searching at Yahoo for scientific and research purpose, that is at least my uneducated guess.

cheers
viggen

elgrande

7:43 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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50% Yahoo
25% MSN
20% Google
5% Other SE's

Google has definitely indexed more pages, but I only get hits on obscure search terms from Google. Relevancy is way down, IMHO.

BeeDeeDubbleU

7:51 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am ranked much much better at Yahoo then at Google, still i get 80% from Google and 10% from Yahoo, hardly anyone is searching at Yahoo for scientific and research purpose, that is at least my uneducated guess.

Viggen I agree with this point. I believe that Google does attract more "scientific" searchers. I have an informational, technical site and your results bear out what I was seeing, which was about 72% Google. My problem is that the updates have caused me to lose this 72%.

tigger

7:57 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo is up, Google slipped a bit the others sent some traffic but nothing to write home about

highman

8:07 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Similar ranking positions in MSN, G and Y

Google 55.23%
Yahoo 19.24%
MSN 15.48%

Across 50 + search terms, travel industry

Josefu

8:08 am on Apr 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think my site would be a good guinea-pig for testing SERP performance and visitation rates - I haven't touched it in over four months, that is to say since the Google-coaster began. Last time I checked two months ago I was on Google's page six but after reading this revealing thread :

Google : #2
Yahoo : #3
Aol : #3
Msn : #4 & 5

And...

Msn : 41%
Yahoo : 34%
Google : 16%
Aol : <1%

...this is based on ONE competitive (in my field) search term. I hope this gives you all something solid to chew on : )

Let me just say that four months ago I was #3 in Google before dropping off the front page, and most of my traffic came from there to boot.

[edited by: Josefu at 8:10 am (utc) on April 21, 2004]

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