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I know that this has been rumored for a while, but I've never seen it actually happen. Has anyone else experienced this?
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But you can't snap up an expired domain and inherit the old pages' rank. You start off just as if it were a new domain.
This is unequivocally incorrect statement as far as I am concerned.
Unless google have just changed their policy and their algo within the last month I can assure you they do not count new links if they have placed an expired domain penalty on the site.
What has been their practice is to have a time penalty on the domain that can last upto 6-11 months and once the ban is lifted they count all links whether the link was from before the expiration or not.
The algorithm you describe would, indeed, be easier to implement than what I thought it did, which lends your story plausibility. But ... in practice, it might be hard to tell the effects apart.
For example, say the old site had an ODP listing before it expired. On either theory, that backlink disappeared.
But: suppose after 6 months, the ODP category is changed (some OTHER link added or deleted.) Now: are all links from this "NEW" webpage considered "new"? If so, then on either theory, that link would have seemed to come back after an interval of a few months.
Similarly, a Yahoo link, or a Podunk-chamber-of-commerce link, might seem to come back after an interval, when that page of THAT website happened to be updated.
To get down to the question: were you watching your backlinks closely enough to see if they all came back within the same day or two, or did they come back over an interval of several weeks?
Just to de-simplify the issue further: on your theory, suppose the Google link only comes back the first time Googlebot respiders the page after the "expiration date of the ban". Now the links will re-appear over an interval that might be up to 3 or 4 weeks, even though they all "potentially resurrected" on the same day.
Can you give any more specific details that would lead credence to specific variations of any of these scenarios?
Gee you are asking a lot!:)
I am just a simple taxi driver.I don't even know the meaning of some of your words.
However, I can tell you that this is what google does when they penalise a domain for being an expired domain.
First,they make the pr zero and discount all backlinks but they do continue to show results containing the domain name.
Then they put a scoring penalty on the domain and will not rank the domain for anything.
Then they ignore all new backlinks to the new site and continue with a scoring penalty.
After some months and it seems to be arbitrary on exactly how long(my last bunch of domains had pr restored after 11 months) they lift the expired domain backlink penalty and restore pr to the site.The backlinks that are reported contain backlinks that were present before the domain expired.
However,the scoring penalty continues, though the site will now show for some exact phrases.
I still own domains that were penalised in google's first bust on expired domains 12 months ago and though they have many new links and quite good pr they do not score for any good keyword searches.
I am hoping that in time google will lift this scoring penalty.
Now as for what oldskool79 says yes there have been many expired domains that have slipped past google's filter,in fact,they really only concentrated on expired domains for a couple of months last year and you have to wonder whether it will be the same again.
Now, before they even expire, they are PR0.
I guess I will have to experiment by throwing a link or two towards one of the PR0 domains I recently purchased to see what happens.
Let you all know later.
Sorry Crabbie. Thanks for the info.
