Steps to Overcome Disappearing from Google

[tonyww]

my Google rankings have completely disappeared after a good year. The pages were well optimised but not too much (I thought).

What should I do now? What are the steps I should take to overcome being nuked out of Google?

Help!

[John_Caius]

Read Specific recommendations [google.com] on that page - have you done any of it? If not then you're unlikely to have been penalised. Have your rankings just dropped a few hundred or does your site no longer show up when you type

site:www.example.com -qowrqwn

? It may just be a temporary blip caused by a change in the algorithm. See if it comes back after a short while.

[edited by: Woz at 12:30 pm (utc) on Mar. 31, 2004]
[edit reason] tidying up [/edit]

[tonyww]

yep, I read the guidelines and the site is still there, just dropped more than 100 places (that's the limit I set Web Position Gold's reporter to read to).

What have other people done in this circumstance, except panic?

[mars9820]

what others did?

ditch the webpostion gold software :P.

Do a sitesearch on that and you will see many people suspecting that the software will raise some kind of penalty.

[Leosghost]

I always wondered If Google hates webposition gold ..howcome they run adwords for it on the google groups forum pages .....?

[Jim_at_SFE]

From Google's page:

Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.

It's the only product they name so they must have a real problem with it.

[Total Paranoia]

"such as"

It is the only one they name yes, but they are not going to list them all are they. They have simply used this program as an example as it is the most well known.

They only suggest not using it because they know it saps their bandwidth when you do the rank checking.

I never saw the point in using it anyway, if I want to check my rankings, I simply use Google.

Webposition Gold is unlikely to be causing your ranking problems but I would not use it anyway, just because Google says so!

[ILuvSrchEngines]

The Webposition 'Gold' (guess that sounds better than silver) software theoretically is supposed to analyze content on a web page, such as word frequency, word density, etc., to determine how to match top site's keyword usage and move a new page higher in the search engine.

The only problem is, the software is totally void of any logic to figure what goes on behind the scenes by the various search engines to artificially promote a web page higher than 'on-page' factors. In other words, it’s a piece-o-crap software meant to separate you from your money.

[ILuvSrchEngines]

>What have other people done in this circumstance, except panic?

You really need to get caught up. Start by reading about the 'google florida filter' or 'google florida update'. Only problem is, you may need to go to Yahoo search to find good links on the subject.

Anyway, welcome to the bottom with many of the rest of us. Don't bother complaining about the *newer* *better* Google , there is nobody at Google who cares, they are too busy making deposit runs to the bank.

[Leosghost]

Iluv ....you'll have to add "certain" to your "nick" ... :))

What I find the most amusing about WPG is that it used to ship in trial with Altavista only ...remember them anyone 0.8% of websearches are made using alta ..( their figures and they're crowing about it! )...

Now it ships with "g" and some other stuff in trail ..and doesnt mention backlinks anywhere ...( g without backlinks is like Abbot without Costello )..

I've got a friend here in France who was still getting followup " take advantage of our offer" mails from them till I replied for him ...with a " you people fall on your heads or what " customer satisfaction report ....
the only thing you can say for them is at least they dont try to get your API #....( Would they know what to do with it one wonders ...? ).....

Tonyww....the secret is to build yourself anice spammy directory and put adwords on it ...."g" loves those!

[Pimpernel]

Tonyww, could you sticky mail me the URL in question. We are finding out quite a few things about these google updates and the more independent data we can test it on the better, and we may solve your problem

[ILuvSrchEngines]

>Tonyww, could you sticky mail me the URL in question. We are finding out quite a few things about these google updates and the more independent data we can test it on the better, and we may solve your problem

Oh please.... hide your wallet Tony!

[tonyww]

Hi
I only use WPG for reporting. Actually I bought it about 3 or 4 years ago and used it to check my pages, but I don't do that anymore. It's purely just for checking the rank. Can anyone suggest alternative software for reporting? There's no way I would want to do that by hand once per month.

Anyways ... the topic isn't 'the merits of lack of of WPG, but how do I get back up there'?

Tony

[chinkchink]

tonyww
**** has free tool for checking google ranking

ooops, the url got "sensored" out.... i'll sticky mail you