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Backlinks and PR updated.

         

Alternative Future

10:00 pm on Mar 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Tonight (UK time) I have noticed that my site has went back to being a PR of 5 when it went down in Jan...

Anyone else confirm this?

edited: After 5mins it has gone back to a PR of 4!

-George

stinkfoot

2:32 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Defo .. network update just new pages up in the last few weeks no pr still front pages all updated

moftary

2:33 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Update raised my PR to PR6 (from PR5).
Still I dont see any improvements in SERPs, nor I expect frankly.

As I wrote in another post, I dont understand where people had this idea that PR5 website's pages has hundreds of visitors from searching engines and PR6 ones has thousands!

And yes, I am new to the SEO science but I can confirm that PR has a low (if not a very low) weight on SERPs.

Cheers,

--moftary

trimmer80

2:43 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to disagree, but my traffic increased by 80%. And the only possible correlation is the new inbound links that I got. Went from a pr4 to 5.

It is likely however that you went from a 5.98 to a 6.01 and thus the increase is only slight.

jothelion

2:45 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yes updates here in the UK some pr3-5 they've been a long time coming and some pr3 to pr4.

jothelion

HarryM

2:47 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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On seeing this thread, checked my site on 66.102.9.104. Results are exactly what I was expecting, more backlinks showing and a general uplift to all pages, and a heftier uplift to those areas that had new deep links. So to me it looks like a rational update. Keeping my fingers crossed it rolls out across all centres.

One point of interest to those who say links pages are dead: PR-wise my "theme-links.php" pages are actually doing better than average. As they have only just hit PR4 I don't know yet if they actually pass PR of course.

HarryM

3:00 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The PR upgrade I saw on 66.102.9.104 is now visible on my default toolbar setting. I am hosted in the UK.

nuthin

3:28 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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our site seems to of dropped about 50 links :/ when searching on [66.102.9.104...] so far.

and dropped down from a pr 6 to a 5.
but it's on & off at the moment.
hopefully theres still some more data to come before it's final.

Stefan

3:46 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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And yes, I am new to the SEO science but I can confirm that PR has a low (if not a very low) weight on SERPs.

True, but when it goes up, it gives you a sense that you're doing things generally right, (perhaps wishful thinking). It helps with the bot too, having a higher PR.

edit_g

3:57 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As I wrote in another post, I dont understand where people had this idea that PR5 website's pages has hundreds of visitors from searching engines and PR6 ones has thousands!

I don't have that idea - and I don't think a lot of other people have either. You need to market your website - PR is no good on its own. It's not what you've got - it's what you do with it. :)

And yes, I am new to the SEO science but I can confirm that PR has a low (if not a very low) weight on SERPs.

Somebody has mis-informed you, take that from somebody who isn't new to SEO science. The only thing we can say is that PR has LESS weight.

moftary

3:59 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It is likely however that you went from a 5.98 to a 6.01 and thus the increase is only slight.

My openion is based on the very early increase from PR1 to PR5, it hasnt been enough time to judge the increase from PR5 to PR6.

Cheers,

--moftary

trimmer80

4:04 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>>it hasnt been enough time to judge the increase from PR5 to PR6.

the effects of the increased inbound links / PR are rolling. i.e. you should have already seen the effects of this change. The current change / "update" is just an update to the display of backlinks and PR, the effects have already taken place.

McMohan

6:11 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Since last update added about 30 PR 4, 10 PR5 and 5 PR6 links besides many below PR 4 sites. Expecting a rise of PR from 5 to 6. The day arrived and PR has come down to 4 :-( Backlinks don't show many PR5 and 6 links but show PR 2 sites. One of the few things I am left with no explanation to. No link farming, no links from same class c IP but all are different individual links. For a change I also see my ranks have taken a beating.

Some cajole might help

Mc

pele

6:20 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just noticed a change in the directory results and the page rank!
My pr looks close to the same as before but I'm up top in the directory results! #1, #4, #5

One of my other friends went from blank space to pr6! He had changed the domain name and he's keeping the other site as a mirror and backup so we thought he was being penalized in some way. His site is excellent though and really should be high pr.

YAY! Signs of life that are good!

GoogleGuy

6:22 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Good questions, jbgilbert. All I was trying to get across was that we have better updates of PR and links (including a comprehensive list) in-house at Google, so I personally don't pay as much attention to when we export new externally visible links or PR. So for me, it's just an everyday occurrence--but I understand why everyone else gets excited. :)

BTW, this seems like a good quiet time to remind people that if you're obsessively hardwiring IP addresses in your hosts file in order to check what a PageRank display says: don't forget that there are other search engines out there. Spend some time looking at rankings on other engines as well (the old "don't put all your eggs in one basket" theme). All that time spent on backlink/PR checking would also pay off by spending that time looking at how other search engines score pages. :)

pele

6:28 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm at the top on the other search engines. It was just Google in Nov. that dropped me like a hot potato. Hopefully, I cooled a bit and they pick me back up and put me where I was before.
;)

McMohan

6:41 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I think I have found answer to my woes partly. None of the backlinks show any page that ends with "links". So Google is ignoring the Links pages already?
Anyone with simialr experience?

Mc

nalavanje

6:47 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Our homepage went from pr2 to pr5.
All other pages went from pr0 to pr1-4.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah.

dgrand

6:52 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does the change in PR has immideate effect in the search ranking positions? How long one has to wait for that to be reflected? (mine went from 0 to 4 too today!)

mipapage

7:04 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone seeing greybarring?

On this pr update and the last, the homepage of a site that I sponsor has been greybarred on both occasions, however at somepoint the pr seems to return, though last time at 1 point less than it used to be.

The site is a very highly regarded authority site for a certain aspect of web design, has a lot of organic backlinks from other authoratative sites, and I can't for the life of me figure out why the homepage gets greybarred while the rest of the site is fine.

cisco

7:08 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yay my PR4 has finally returned which went back to PR3 about 3 months ago. And most importantly I finally have multiple backlinks showing! I've only ever had one showing, but its been like 6 months out of date..

My rankings have remained the same for a while now. Very high up in my niche and #1 in the world for a whole stack of niche phrases.

nalavanje

7:15 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Our 20 days old homepage is showing in Google's cache. Our updated page has been in the cache for last 20 days and today got replaced with old.
What the ....

tictoc

7:17 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have seen some sites homepage grey barred but yet have pr 6 on their other pages. They are not mine, so I do not know what they did.

McMohan

7:21 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I bet overall the trend is a PR fall across board, apart from my sites ofcourse. Altavista only supports this fact, where for the first time I am seeing a PR 9. Always used to be 10.

Mc

coconutz

7:27 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>So Google is ignoring the Links pages already?

There have been a number of recent discussions noting that these page have been filtered from the backlink results. With a little research you should be able to draw your own conclusions as there are those that are sure that these links are not being counted as a backlink or transferring PR and then there are those that are sure they are counted and pass PR, but are just not displayed when using the link: command.

Google and pages named /links [webmasterworld.com]
High PR backlinks not showing? [webmasterworld.com]

Snookered

7:34 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm thrilled with a new PR2! Seeing how it has been 0 for ages and I even thought I'd been blacklisted. Looks as though Google is coming back like a hungry wolf!

Snookered

7:36 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I also just noticed Altavista is now a PR9!

McMohan

7:37 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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coconutz - Thanks for the post. Infact I have seen many of those threads, but the proof of this was not as comprehensive as it is now. Prior to this update, quite a few "links" pages were showing not only for my website, but for few others that I take interest in. Now, none of them show any of those links pages. Sadly many of those "links" are not for just link exchange puposes.

Thanks

Mc

filo

7:39 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My site's pagerank dropped from 4 to 3 which is understandable considering my backlinks. But now, it seems that it has gone back to the previous PR for no apparent reason. Seems like things are still moving around a bit.

Crush

8:57 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seems like things are still moving around a bit.

That is because you are looking at a different data center. It will all be apparent soon

mipapage

9:02 am on Mar 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Here's something bizarre:

A while back I put up a page to test something, and that page had a link to the root of my local testing server. I have the domain for that location mapped in my hosts file. A site with the same name does not exist live on the internet.

Well, I had forgotten about that page and google spidered it. At some point in around November, I believe, I opened a browser window and noticed that my root server had PR via the toolbar!

So I clicked to check backlinks, saw the offending page and took it down. The pr went away during the next update/pr update.

But now it's back! Crazy stuff, no links out there point to that 'domain'; I checked on other SE's as well. A weird one for sure...

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