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18 months and counting on a submission that
has been aknowledged as being "in the queue"
that one can sit there until i get the award
for longest in the the queue.
i no longer submit to dmoz.
it's another democratic nightmare.
i just wish they would die a decent death.
if google wants a directory as the basis
of their crawl, they should fund one from
their coffers.
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Why? Even if a site hasn't managed to get in the ODP because it is still waiting in the queue, odds are if the site is any good that it'll have a link from at least one site listed in the ODP. Why would Google want to pay to achieve what they want when they can just instead crawl dmoz.org for free?
Why would Google want to pay to achieve what they want when they can just instead crawl dmoz.org for free?
The context here was Googlebot using the ODP as being a good starting point to crawl the web. You are shifting that to "a directory that ordinary surfers will want to use." Much different. Yahoo has marginalized its directory to the point most ordinary surfers aren't even aware of it's existence. Which leads me to suspect Google would have no interest in funding creating a new directory. Just not profitable. As the ODP is free, for Google it is a bargain. Those people who use Google who think the ODP is like you describe above are free to ignore the Google directory.
The context here was Googlebot using the ODP as being a good starting point to crawl the web.
the point i am trying to make, is that it is not as
good a starting point as it could be.
how's that for being pc :)
i question it's completeness, and emphasise it with
my personal experience.
the point is not whether any particular site can
get into dmoz on any given day, but rather, how
good is the crawl seed?
to paraphrase, are you as good as you can be?
i suggest that the answer is no, and further
suggest that an internal effort might be better.
presumably, google has adequate capital to fund
such an effort.
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you might recognise the categories on the new personalised search in labs though
see if you see anything familiar...
[labs.google.com...]
ps if there are any mods about i posted a new entry about the labs update. don't think its been mentioned yet.
[labs.google.com...]
Some highlights:
What is Google Personalized web search?Google Personalized web search delivers custom search results that are based on a profile you create describing your interests. For example, people with an interest in the outdoors will see different relevant sites for a search on "bass" than people who are interested in music. Google Personalized web search is currently available in test mode on Google Labs, where you can create and save your profile and see results tuned to your preferences. Your results can be instantly rearranged by dragging a slider at the top of the page to go from no personalization to full personalization or anywhere in between.
That's pretty awesome. How does it do that?
Google has developed new algorithms that dynamically reorder results by weighting the interests you enter in your profile. When you move the slider, it recalculates and rearranges the results to add more or less emphasis on your profile information.
I went to the second page of results and the slider slid off the page. Where is it?
Personalized results currently show up only on the first page after you do a search. The other results pages show standard Google results.
What do the colored balls next to my search results mean?
The balls indicate which results Google thought were more relevant to your search, based on the interests you entered in your profile. As you move the slider to the right to increase the degree of personalization, these results move closer to the top.
Psst. Googleguy. Might wanna get someone to renumber the answers on the FAQ....they all seem to be answering question number one. ;-)
I have a site about "topic". It is #1 for several keyword searches related to that topic. If I tick the personalise box associated with that topic and then personalise the result, the #1 listing disappears completely out of the results! If I set personalise back to minimum, then the #1 result returns.
I need to work out what I need to do to convince Google that this site really is about "topic" beyond all the content being about that topic, 90% of the incoming links being from sites about the same topic, or several very closely related topics (several are THE authority site), and 75% of the outgoing links being also closely related.