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Overture removes self from google

Full robots ban and url removal.

         

cyberax

8:27 pm on Mar 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It may be just me, but for some reason I can't see overture.com in google's top 100 results for a search for "overture".

The only thing that shows is overture.de and that's without a snippet or title!

Is anyone else experiencing this?

webnewton

6:00 am on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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you are right. check this out google!

percentages

6:24 am on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Didn't this happen once before when Google dropped Overture in favor of the same content at goto.com?

I thought it was the same deal again for a second....but then took a look at goto.com.....what a world we live in?

johnlim

7:14 am on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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overture should be dropped by it is the same as goto.com

But the funny thing is that now the current goto.com is different as overture.com

Any clues we can get from this?

sblake

7:18 am on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

ciml

10:24 am on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you search for something like cache:inventory.overture.com you'll see the answer pretty clearly. Not all of Google's URL removals are instigated by Google...

Mardi_Gras

1:38 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>overture should be dropped by it is the same as goto.com

No, it isn't. Overture sold the goto.com domain name.

Chndru

1:43 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1:52 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Chndru, that robots.txt doesn't get you out of the Google index.....yeah, I find that odd too, but it doesn't!

NFFC was right in his post in the linked thread, this is a manual deletion.

Brett_Tabke

2:06 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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according to informed sources the action by G was evidently at the request of overture.

Chndru

2:13 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks, Brett. How you ever get to manage those pile of info? :)

cyberax

2:35 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know why overture would not want to be included in Google's results?

GodLikeLotus

2:55 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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<Does anyone know why overture would not want to be included in Google's results?

They would rather pay Google AdWords for their traffic.

kaled

3:06 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Brett said
according to informed sources the action by G was evidently at the request of overture.

GodLikeLotus asked

Does anyone know why overture would not want to be included in Google's results?

That's the wrong question. If you were running a search engine, would you want other search engines spidering your results? I don't think so.

I would say that is is in the interest of the entire search engine community (except maybe the grotty littluns) that links to search results DO NOT appear in search results.

Kaled.

cyberax

3:15 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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But still, why wouldn't you want your homepage to appear? Even Overture's main page is missing...

rudy0826

3:45 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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overture wants to pay for adwords? who would want to pay. regargless if you run a search engine or not asking to be left out of the engine with the largest reach would be bad. I dont think they asked to be left out. Google probably dropped them due to yahoo dropping google. but my point is either way if they asked to be dropped or were dropped by google it goes againt the golden google rule..."The perfect search engine would understand exactly what you mean and give back exactly what you want."

I will refer to this more and more as I see it crumble.

Net_Wizard

12:41 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)



This is in response to Yahoo supposedly penalizing sites that display adsense, just a strong warning that...next time it would be all of Yahoo's URLs.

*disclaimer* just a theory of course ;)

*waving the conspirator flag to Steve*

johnlim

1:00 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Yahoo supposedly penalizing sites that display adsense"
Is this true?

Kirby

2:06 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>but my point is either way if they asked to be dropped or were dropped by google it goes againt the golden google rule..."The perfect search engine would understand exactly what you mean and give back exactly what you want."

Good point. Someone asked me about keywords and I told them to Google for the suggestion tool. It wasnt there - just a lot of forum pages. This was a few weeks ago.

internetheaven

10:51 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"I would say that is is in the interest of the entire search engine community (except maybe the grotty littluns) that links to search results DO NOT appear in search results."

I agree with Kaled, I wish there was something Google could do to wipe out all the spammy search engines that let all their search results pages get indexed. I suppose it's difficult though as they are using dynamic pages and it would be hard to tell the difference in practice.

Does anyone know if Google considers search engine results pages to be spam? They don't really provide any unique content and are normally just mirrors of a million other search engine results pages ranked along with them. My search engine has a complete ban on crawling search results pages, does anyone else here agree all search engines should do the same?

ciml

11:59 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This is getting way off track, after the cache result I posted above and Brett's informed sources, I think we should put yet another Google conspiracy idea to bed. :-)

cyberax, I don't know why Overture wanted that domain gone; it could be to do with branding, legal concernes (eg. outdated info), embarrassing press release archives, whatever. Maybe it's just easier to disallow all than to expend the effort to come up with a robots.txt like WebmasterWorld's...

sidyadav

7:19 am on Mar 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Theres was a thread on this some time ago:
[webmasterworld.com...]

I always wondered what really happen, now I know :)

Sid