PR0 - white in toolbar?

[Jon12345]

I have a page on my PR5 site that has a PRO and white in the toolbar. When I check backlinks, it shows only a backlink from my site map.

Does this mean that:

a) the page has not been indexed yet?

b) the page is banned

c) it is too deep in the directory structure

Regards,

Jon

[ThomasB]

that means that Google knows the site and is indexed.

[jdMorgan]

It seems that updating the PR meter data is low priority right now. I've got some new (totally clean, useful) pages also showing white bar, and no reason think they've been penalized. We'll just have to wait for the PR meter and the backlinks to be updated.

Jim

[Herenvardo]

a) the page has not been indexed yet?

b) the page is banned

c) it is too deep in the directory structure

All three questions can be checked separately:
a) If a page is not indexed, it's toolbar is grey and not white, so the answer is no.
b) When a page is banned it is removed from the index (it can be temporary or permanently). To chek if a URL is in the google's index, you can type it in the search box (the full url) If you get any kind of information from the index, you're in the index so you're not banned. If you are not in the index but have a white PR bar, then you are banned (if the bar is grey you are not banned, it's simply that the file has never been on the index ;))
c) This has no direct relation with PR value. But it has relation with the PR approximation that the Toolbar will give you if the page is not indexed: some people say that if www.domain.com is PR6, for example, then www.domain.com/dir1/ will show PR5, domain.com/dir1/dir2 will show 4, etc. This is only used when the file has no PR value. So if you are in the index, have a white bar and not too deep in the dir tree, this means that your page has less than PR 1. Get links and don't worry ;)

Greetings,
Herenvardö

[Jon12345]

That helped thank you. But something strange is happening. Sometimes it is showing me a grey bar and saying the page is not indexed. Other times it is showing me a white bar with a PR0.

What on earth is going on?

Jon

[jdMorgan]

Be aware that "google.com" is not one single huge computer. It is actually a distributed network of thousands of different machines in different locations. So, each time you connect to Google, you connect to a different machine. If that machine has not yet been updated, it will show old results. This applies to the machines that the toolbar communicates with as well.

If you want to, you can specify the IP address of a single machine that the toolbar should use to check your toolbar PR. Simply make an entry in your hosts file that specifies the IP address you like. Of course, that doesn't guarantee the latest results, but you will see more consistent results.

The location of the hosts file varies, but its filename is 'hosts' with no file extension, and it resides in or below the "windows" directory. A sample entry looks like this:

216.239.33.100 toolbarqueries.google.com

Jim

[Marval]

I will respectfully disagree with the answers here - I can add a page to a site that is already indexed and ranked and that new page will show as a PR0 white bar even though it hasnt had time to be indexed - I mean immediately after I upload it to the server. It will not show backlinks obviously, as the bot hasn't been around, but I have just tested this on three of my ranked domains and it worked every time.

[Herenvardo]

Marval, this can be explained:
When a page is not indexed, the toolbar tries to approximate its PR value. To do so, it searches for the PR value of the next upper page in dir structure, gets its PR and substracts 1. If this upper page is not indexed, its PR is also approximated. So in general, you have that for a non-indexed page, the ToolBar will show a PR as follows:
PR of the deepest indexed page in the domain - difference of deep among the indexed and the requested files.
If no file on the domain is indexed, then the Toolbar can't aproximate the PR this way, so it shows a grey bar (unless it gets an approximation using another system)

Herenvardö

[kaled]

Don't believe toolbar PR. It is especially unreliable for pages less than ~3 months old. Last summer, my whole site was white-barred for months with no ill-effects.

Kaled.

[reddevil]

b) When a page is banned it is removed from the index (it can be temporary or permanently). To chek if a URL is in the google's index, you can type it in the search box (the full url) If you get any kind of information from the index, you're in the index so you're not banned. If you are not in the index but have a white PR bar, then you are banned (if the bar is grey you are not banned, it's simply that the file has never been on the index ;))

If the above is true then the whole of my site has been banned (even though I don't beleiev that I have done anything wrong?

Is this really true?

[madman21]

No that is not true. I get no results when i search for my url but am showing for keywords and allinurl: etc

[Herenvardo]

No that is not true.

Sorry :( It worked when I used it.

Herenvardö