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Sneaky DMOZ inclusion

Obviously a bad idea, but what would happen?

         

finer9

5:53 pm on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Say you took a DMOZ listed domain and made it a 301 redirect to your current site.

Obviously not exactly ethical, but technically speaking what do you think the result would be?

ciml

7:23 pm on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If the domains is expired then there's a strong chance that Google will stop counting the link after a while (Google have a WHOIS archive).

Also, ODP editors can be quite quick to de-list that sort of thing.

Personally, if I wanted to try this sort of thing I'd first look for a time machine and go back to 2001...

g1smd

9:06 pm on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The ODP does not list redirects. It would be culled.

bether2

1:04 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Personally, if I wanted to try this sort of thing I'd first look for a time machine and go back to 2001...

Well said, ciml. And thanks for the chuckle.

mrwhy2k

1:16 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Also, ODP editors can be quite quick to de-list that sort of thing.

The words "quick" and "ODP editors" don't belong in the same sentence.

The only problem you would run into would be Google not counting the link if the domain had expired.

encyclo

1:23 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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IIRC the point is that DMOZ has a link-checker which would automatically delist any site using a redirect. No human intervention required. So no, it wouldn't work. Buy a listed domain and repopulate the site with new pages with the same theme (with some links off you your main site), well, that might just work...

Powdork

1:33 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You don't need a redirect. You can create a doorway page with a standard html link to the destination page. Then the only ways it gets detected is if its reported or an editor happens across it (not likely). Once reported, these things are taken care of quickly, even by DMOZ.

ByronM

2:37 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If the site is on topic i don't think the ODP would even notice - And if they do it would be 6-10 months down the line as the editorship there is horrible.

This is a business for many people - selling yahoo links and odp linked expired domains.

IanWil01

7:09 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This is a business for many people - selling yahoo links and odp linked expired domains.

It is far more than that! We had all our clients listed in a geographic array over several years in ODP - all still active domains and all still totally on topic. EVERYTHING has since been removed - my guess is our oposition became editors.

We did attempt to email with a gentle enquiry as to how and why - have never had a reply.

/Ian

nuevojefe

10:27 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The words "quick" and "ODP editors" don't belong in the same sentence.

Classic.

I applied for a category that was in desperate need of an editor, I submitted an application that I was actually very proud of, gramatically correct, proper spelling, etc.

My 3 examples were really good in my opinion too. I explained my affiliation which was super minor and totally honest.

I then submitted another cheasy application for another category to see the different result from one seeming very proper and objective and one seeming more fun but less professional.

The crap one got shut down in 3 days. The other one took about 2 weeks to get the no go response. Neither had reasons.

Foiled again...

ciml

10:49 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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nuevojefe, whether you get accepted for your preferred categry or not doesn't come into it. DMoz have a spider as encyclo points out.

I didn't realise it was automatic, I thought the editor got a warning.

Powdork's right of course, if you wanted to get the DMoz backlink credit you'd just put up a site and link to your destination URL. Then you'd get away with it until Google's expired domain tracking catches you.

bird

12:13 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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if you wanted to get the DMoz backlink credit you'd just put up a site and link to your destination URL. Then you'd get away with it until Google's expired domain tracking catches you.

Actually, the ODP also has an expired domain tracker nowadays. And this one really pulls the entry without human intervention, while the dead link checker just puts a red mark on it. That doesn't mean that those "reds" are likely to sit there much longer. They are conspiciously visible to all editors above the relevant category, and many will just trawl through their area moving them back to the unreviewed queue for later review.

finer9

2:16 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why isn't there a DMOZ/ODP board?

4eyes

2:18 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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They have their own.

tjorn

3:45 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)



There is a public ODP-board here:
Computers/Internet/Searching/Directories/Open_Directory_Project

Hissingsid

6:48 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I've been trying to get a redirecting URL out of ODP for nearly two years now but it's still there.

I've used the amend forms written to the editor of the section by email etc etc.

Best wishes

Sid

ogletree

6:58 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just did a search on the ODP dump and found lots of sites that are redirects. That have been there a long time.