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PageRank decreases, no indexing

Need help about that. Tried almost everything.

         

bastek

12:17 am on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello everybody! I've been reading the forum for 4 months and still can't find anything which applies to my trouble. That's the story.

I've been running a website at www.example.com for 5 months now. After two month Google ranked it 4, which was a bit surprising, but after that, month by month my PR was decreasing and now it equals 1. Please tell me what happens, as I almost tried everything yet. My site gains more and more popularity but PR decreases.

What is kinda strange, the googlebot has never crawled deeper than to a section header. I mean it frequently spiders index.php, articles.php, interviews.php and other sections. Never crawls deeper through links with variables.

Could be any reason for that? Maybe there's something wrong with my scripts? Any advise would be pleased.

Sebastian

[edited by: ciml at 11:08 am (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]
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UK_Web_Guy

6:47 pm on Feb 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi

How many links to you have to your site

Do you link to many other sites?

bastek

10:59 am on Feb 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Backward links? Only one, from Zeal.com.
But a phrase wwWebmasterWorldebsite.com can be found on 30 other unique websites.

I link to 30-40 other websites, but Google doesn't know about it, because it doesn't crawl into my subpages.

sit2510

11:49 am on Feb 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Bastek,

Your decrease in PageRank should not be a surprise! You need to try harder as 30-40 links in/out in 5 months might not be sufficient to take you off the launching pad, especially if those links that you got are on the low PR pages or there are too many links on them.

I got some websites that I did not reciprocate links so much during the past several months and which use to show over 200 backlinks a couple of months ago and the index page is PR5. After Austin, backlinks diminishes to 78 and PR5 drop to PR4.

I estimate that if the backlinks keep on diminishing at that rate, those websites of mine could also become PR3 or less within coming 6 months time. Perhaps in 10 months, they will become PR0.

What you need to do is to hunt for good links - perhaps 10 links per day, but prepare to be filled with disappointment because your success rate could be 0-10% for the beginning. But "PERSEVERE" and you may gain PR5 in 3-4 months if you start now!

bastek

9:58 am on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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sit2510,

You may be right though I have made some comparisons to another websites similar to main in contents. Some of them exist 2-3 years longer, have 30-40 links in and 10-20 out and PR of 4. They have also been fully indexed.

Maybe my dynamic links cause problems? I use 'id' and 'lang' parameters.

dhaliwal

11:33 am on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My Website has been ranked 4 for the last several months, while i haven't done anything to improve the page rank, cause those methods are a bit difficult.
but we have added a hell lot of articles, lot of services for people, lot of better news that are updated everyday, lot of people are coming to my website.

All the pages are indexed and we get the main page cached by google every second, but no increase in page rank.

[edited by: vitaplease at 7:59 pm (utc) on Feb. 16, 2004]

kaled

4:29 pm on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Have you submitted to dmoz.org? It can take ages to be listed but is very useful for PR.

Are there any external links to pages deeper in the site?

Googlebot avoids links that contain anything that looks like a session id. Since I don't use session ids I can't remember the spec but it something like id=123456701234

Your initial PR of four was probably wrong. PR is an interative calculation and the first iteration is very inaccurate.

Kaled.

PS
Dhaliwal, you're not supposed to post urls to your own websites.

glengara

5:15 pm on Feb 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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*I use 'id' and 'lang' parameters.*

As Kaled suggests, lose the parameters, use htm extensions, and Gbot will spider deeper.

bastek

8:47 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for all the advise!

Unfortunatelly I can't as my provider doesn't allow mod rewrite engine. What can I do then?

glengara

9:07 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You could try a static site map that references a number of your dynamic pages.
If Gbot tries a few, it may decide they're OK to crawl, but I'd look to switch provider.