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More and more sites Duplicating/stealing content

Will Google ever do anything?

         

crobb305

1:27 am on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Every once in a while, I take a random sentence from my site and search for it in Google (within quotes). By doing this, I can see who has the exact same text on their site. I am now getting 4+ results pages full of sites who have stolen my content word for word. Some of these sites have Google PR of 5 or higher. Some of these sites have my stolen content placed in their html as hidden text.

What is Google doing about this problem? Why can't they do a Cache comparison to see who had the text first, and ban all others (within reason since some concepts could be shared by several sites)?

I fear my rankings are beginning to suffer because of this.

C

ThomasB

10:19 am on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There's no way to auto-determine which site was first or who the owner of some content is.

Just imagine the following situation:
A book shop selling 1 Mio books can't write their own summaries and use what they get from the publisher. Now there are more than 100 book shops out there using the same content, why should 99 be banned? How to decide who is the writer of the content? No way imho.

Just inPrefs

10:41 am on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ThomasB is right.

However, I guess that stolen content shall not be in the future as prolific as it is today. Google must fight one way or another against such big SPAM phenomenon. Or we'll see in a few years the same content in 50 consecutive pages listed in a Google Search.

It just sound of good sense.

ukgimp

10:46 am on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Never mind copied content. I find my stuff indexed then when you click the link you get another website. Not a good description on my part, but a bit of cloaking of my stuff is going on via .ru domains.

webwit

5:57 pm on Feb 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have the same thing happening. I have a very unusual web site name, and if I search for it a whole list of web sites show up in the search results with my web site name contained in it. It wouldn't be bad if it was a link, but it looks like a program to steal content from top sites.

I know a lot of other people have to be seeing this.

If your domain name is: mydomainname.com, do a search for "my domain name" or "mydomainname"

Next try searches for your title, page heading, and sentence from your first paragraph, and any words in bold.

You maybe suprised how you find.

progex

1:58 am on Feb 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have the same thing happening. I have a very unusual web site name, and if I search for it a whole list of web sites show up in the search results with my web site name contained in it. It wouldn't be bad if it was a link, but it looks like a program to steal content from top sites.
I know a lot of other people have to be seeing this.

If your domain name is: mydomainname.com, do a search for "my domain name" or "mydomainname"

Next try searches for your title, page heading, and sentence from your first paragraph, and any words in bold.

You maybe suprised how you find.

Do they outrank you in SERPS?

Marval

2:14 am on Feb 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why in the world would Google care? They are not the police of content on the web - that is a matter to be taken up between website owners and lawyers if necessary as I really dont think Google gives a rats behind who owned the content first - things are a little different for trademark issues and DMCA complaints if used - but even then Google will definitely need legal info from the parties which usually doesnt end up happening

crobb305

3:01 am on Feb 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I really dont think Google gives a rats behind who owned the content first

You are missing the point. When sites with deliberate duplication have significant pagerank, and are showing up in the serps, then there is a problem. Google needs to rid itself of excessive duplication to make the serps cleaner. You are right, anyone who steals my content can be dealt with through legal channels. That is another issue.

moltar

3:13 am on Feb 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I 100% agree with Marval.

Think about it that way: what if there was no Google? Sites would still take your content. How'd you find them?

Google is just a tool for YOU to find those sites. Google has no relation with those sites, they just do the job of letting users find information on the web.

Ranking and all that related stuff (PR, SERP positions, etc) is just another tool for users, Google doesn't care if content that someone stole ranks better on another site...

Their task to provide the content to user. They achieve it, and imo very well!

Just inPrefs

9:18 am on Feb 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm wodering that if you report web sites with stolen content to Google' staff, does Google take some kind of action ever?

ThomasB

9:21 am on Feb 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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they do
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