Cloaking in google

cloaking google

[vegas1122]

I noticed for a while in google that it appears that cloaking is happening. Where search results are showing one title and body. But when click it takes you to different page. I tried right clicking on links and save as just in case it was a redirect java or something but no get the same page as it takes you. What I also noticed with these sites is that there not allowing google to cache there pages either to try and trick google. How is this possible? I was told this cloaking is a no no in google eyes.

[Brett_Tabke]

We are fastly coming back into that same era we were in back in the Altavista Cloaking Days of 98-99. Back then, there was so much page jacking and screw your neighbor going on, that it was cloak or die time.

So, the hot new retro trend in cloaking is to cloak just to thwart competitors from snooping. It is almost mandatory in many sectors now.

See the cloaking forum for more info and techniques.

[FleaPit]

Is there no Google cache? Doesn't this send alarm bells ringing at Googleplex if you don't allow cache?

[GoogleGuy]

Certainly if someone is checking out a spam report and the noarchive flag is set for a suspicious page, then that looks worse. But a spammer doesn't automatically do better in Google by cloaking. There are other factors involved as well (pagerank, who links to that cloaked page, etc), and typically we'd look to improve algorithms for that side of things first, because that would improve quality both for cloaked and uncloaked pages.

[MrSpeed]

We are fastly coming back into that same era we were in back in the Altavista Cloaking Days of 98-99.

I couldn't agree more. Ever since the engines started to index query string type dynamic pages the concept of the doorway page has been resurrected.

However on the flip side it is much easier to find individual hard to find items.

[stcrim]

Because our stuff does well in Google for the most part - we have had more page jacking than you can shake a stick at. Largely it's from the adult industry.

Our sites are almost 100 percent automotive related - yet some how the adult webmasters think pulling traffic from a car dealer will benefit them.

For all the work they put into their page jacking, we know within minutes of it hitting google and it's reported and gone in short order...

If there was a way to cloak without incurring the wrath of Google we would do it in a heart beat.

Google should consider there are good reasons for honest web developers to cloak and protect their interests.

-s-

[operafan]

Once I read a newsletter that with a google toolbar on, the surfer viewing that site will be compared to the page in the google's database for reference to see if what the surfer seeing is the same as in the database.
Bcoz google toolbar is sort of a spyware right.
Don't know how founded is it but just thought that it was logical.

[pali]

Forget the spammers. Let's just concentrate on the good guy for a sec.
Cloaking should be fine. Specially if you keep the pages "almost" same. Just little tweak on some KW etc.

What would be wrong with that? Same content, color etc. - just little tweak in some kw and inbound/outbound links etc..

a)Actually, tons of people are still cloaking
b)Complaining to Google doesn't do anything anyway

So, it's back to Wild Wide West! For me anyway.