Links From the Same C Class Still Count

Google's algo not ready yet?

[baron13]

I have seen a website owner which has 5 websites and he is interlinking all sites at the bottom of every page! So he has always 4 links at the bottom of every subpage, pointing to the other 4 domains! By this way this guy gets an pagerank 7 of every of his own sites!

The own problem is that all IP's come from the same C class! For example: 123.123.123.1-5!

But in the post of the new google patent they told us that this links won't be counted anymore to prevent heavy network linking!? But this guy increased his own links by adding more sites to his directory in the last month! I thought that the backlinks must drop but they increased about 500!

Can someone explain why google counts this links anymore?

[ciml]

Google engineers publish papers from time to time but many of the ideas will not be put into practice. Even if thay are, it may take some time due to the requirements of integrating with existing software. Performance is likely to be a major issue too when dealing with billions of documents.

If the the pages trip a Google filter, which from your description does not seem unlikely, it may not happen immediately. Large scale penalties have been introduced in large batches from time to time, as with removal of penalties.

If and when such a penalty is introduced, it may not be obvious. Google's penalties used to be very easy to see but now there's more likely to be a subtle drop in rankings. For most people, these are indistinguishable from the normal flux due to new pages, links, weighting changes, etc.

If some domains are linked in a way that Google doesn't like, then I wouldn't expect using different class Cs to avoid the penalties anyway.

[MyWifeSays]

baron13

Are you refering to the localrank patent?

If localrank is part of the current algo then it would only mean that links from pages in the same C-class do not count towards the localrank calculation. This is only part of the algo and wouldn't affect PR.

[netnerd]

As far as i know , the whole c class thing is still 'up in the air' As you all realise, with so many sites being on shared hosting these days, and more and more 'tightening up' of the allocation of new ip's , i dont honestly think that it would be an improvement in the google algo to reduce the importance of links from the same c class.

[killroy]

All my sites are on the same single IP, and it never detrimented my rankings.

SN

[baron13]

Hmmm ok but I think its not fair if some websites gets penalized because they are making heavy network linking and some sites get a high pagerank and appear at place #1!
I own a small network of websites and I use different IP's but all from the same C class and no link within my network is counted anymore since the new algo exists (they were counted before)!

But at my competitors websites the internal linking within his network increased even though he owns only IP's from the same C class too! And this guy is just as long in the business as I do!

I think this is a little bit strange....

[Marval]

How long ago were your own links counted and when do you believe the new algo took effect on your linking?

[netnerd]

Are you sure that its not something to do with the particular c class your sites are on? Google has been doing funny things with certain ip ranges recently (i had 2 sites drop for no apparent reason which were on the same ip).

Take a look at the godaddy discussion!

[baron13]

I think the new algo took affect about 2 month ago! That was the time were all my network links were deleted! But the links at my competitors website were not deleted.....! We both use different IP's from the same C class! So there's no reason for deleting my backlinks.....!

Sometimes I think google does not work reliable! :(

[ogletree]

Right now if you can get one of your sites to PR7 and then link all your other sties on the same class C and then link them together the other ones will be PR6's. They will all help each other. Now this is just toolbar PR and does not seem to be worth anything. I just uninstalled my toolbar becasue it seems wothless now. My sites don't rank any better than they did when they were PR2's. I do rank well but just where I have done on page work on off page anchor text. My huge PR jump seems worthless.

[netnerd]

I generally find that google toolbar pagerank , whether real or not, is certainly only one small factor in ranking. If you have a high PR and you are not ranking well, then id guess its down to optimising your pages both on and off thats keeping you down the rankings.

[ciml]

baron13, I don't expect that the lack of your own pages showing in the link: search is related to their IPs.

[ogletree]

I have decided to change my stance on the whole class C thing after a little testing. Scatter folks scatter.

[mcavic]

By this way this guy gets an pagerank 7 of every of his own sites!

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If I can get a PR7 on one of my sites, I should be able to spread it to all of my sites. Just like I can spread it to other people's sites.