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can anyone console me - Ive had enough:(

         

fasteddy

4:32 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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yesterday I uploaded a nice new front page with some nice relevant kewords and pics. Today my site disappeared from google - not altogether but from the search that I generally appear in. OK - so i must have triggered a spam detector. Perhaps too many keywords or whatever, I can take them out.

Background: Im in dating for Christians - who im trying to help out and have had great success with a small free site. More background and Ill be straight - I got a band from google as a beginner and learned my lesson - cleaned up the site etc.
Now this is whats making me feel really sick.

When I type in certain keyphrases - major companies are together creating gateway sites plus making a bazillion doorways for every subject imaginable (which if any had any content whatsoever I could live with it)These pages appear on every page top to bottom for the first 3 or more pages. Not only that, all these pages pertian to different subjects and even have elaborate descriptions but are intstant redirects to the mother sites.

Again - not so bad when u know that google are doing their best to stop this in the next dance or whatever. BUT...

Then (since I got curious) I start coming across many keword loaded splash screens - again ok - but now - some have hidden text - I mean white on white. SO THERE IS NO POINT IN CONTINUING 4 YEARS WORK DAY AND NIGHT IF GOOGLE ARE ALLOWING THIS STUFF WITH NOT EVEN AUTO DETECTION. IF THE BASICS ARE NOT FILTRED WHAT IS THE POINT? NO POINT - Someone tell me they are penalised in other ways and Ill be happy. I am going to give it a day or 2 and see how I feel. Then i will look for a buyer and be done with the whole thing - my site is great and my users adore it - so much they bought me a new platform and complete site rewrite when I ran out of money. But I cant continue against such a force.
Sorry to rant but I feel sick about the whole affair. I thought google were doing a good job after I got banned becase I realised they were trying to get better sites. But now im not even sure about whos in bed with who. honest All these pay for placement directories are popping up - one major SE sucks in MY relevant page content and desriptions and then displays their non relevant sites in the results on google! Thats theft. So Ive been honest and probably dug my own grave. I want no more stress. Hope I feel different tomorrow.
Not so fast Eddy

Mardi_Gras

4:40 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One quick point, we don't discuss specific keywords :)

As to getting beat in the SERPS, don't be so sure that you are being beaten by the techniques you describe. There may be other reasons these sites are ahead of you. Stick around, learn what works, and get your site boosted up.

Good luck.

stephen

6:49 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Wait a few days, and it may re-appear...

As a Christian website for singles, play it honest,
and just let word-of-mouth spread the word, no pun intended.

It may sound trite, but the bottom line is probably
faith in your heart.

I have a website, gets probably extremely limited if
any traffic, but I have "faith" to keep on adding to it.

It sounds like your customers are friendly people, you might put out a call for some of them to help you for awhile.

You might create a nucleus of workers from your customers.

Just a thought.

Stephen

MHes

7:22 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi

Keep looking at your stats rather than your rankings. You may be pleasantly surprised how many people are finding you for obscure search phrases.

We cover many sectors, and all the 'big' search phrases produce small amounts of traffic compared to all the millions of variations. These visitors are often better quality, having done a very specific search. Expand your site to catch these and let the spammy sites waste their time on a few keywords.

cayleyv

7:25 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I feel your pain FE. It appears that Google is doing some major upgrades now, similar to what happened in late spring 2003, although this is less pronounced. I have seen several sites i monitor drop from previous keyword rankings and i have no explanation for it. G is presently doing a DMOZ update so it likely coincides with algorithm changes.

worker

7:32 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Don't forget that the person clicking through on a link in the search engines isn't going to be fooled into thinking a non-christian dating site is a christian dating site. Just because a site manages to get their listing above yours, that doesn't mean that they will convert that visitor. In fact, if they advertise or promote themselves as a christian site within splash pages, and they are not, then they are going to cause a negative reaction in the visitor.
While I'd love to be number one on my key terms, I don't sweat it when bad sites, or splash page sites appear above me, because most people will click through, and then leave.
Don't sweat your search engine positioning for now. Just focus on your site, and make it so good that you convert more of the people that do find you.

DerekH

11:49 pm on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

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fasteddy wrote
yesterday I uploaded a nice new front page with some nice relevant kewords and pics. Today my site disappeared from google

I humbly suggest that you need to check your site is free of typos, because your email isn't. Are your kewords [sic] spelled properly?

Also, I suggest you need to reflect on why Google should have attended to you within a few hours when others on this same forum are claiming a two-month turnaround.

Don't take me as negative...
I suspect you are seeing the general hiccups that come from maintaining 3 billion pages - if any other industry were asked to be consistent to within 0.00000001% they'd be laughed at...

Take time to improve your site - criticising Google never achieves as much as a better site!
DerekH

stephen

3:12 pm on Nov 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I like Derek's comment:

"Take time to improve your site - criticising Google never achieves as much as a better site!
DerekH"

It is too easy to focus on negative things which do Not achieve rather than on Plus Actions!

The 'ole be ye Doers of the word!

Stephen