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>>The index page also has a heading and 3 paragraphs about the content with key words.
So far, so good.
>>To be honest it seems unethical but I see 1,0000s of other sites doing it and getting their subpages ranked 0-10.
To be honest, to me it sounds risky. I see hundreds of pages doing all kinds of things, but we have to remember that a lot of them out there are crash-and-burn throw_away domains. If they go south, oh well that's how the cookie crumbles, they just crank out some more to replace them.
>>All my subpages now have the gray bar. Each subpage has a different named images on it and also different titles, headers and footers. The content is unique but they are obviously doorway pages to my main page. i link back to the main page using the same keyword of the subdirectory.
Of course that's diluting the anchor text for the main page, but that's neither here nor there. Were those subdirectory pages created individually with users in mind, or were they generated by some kind of software?
>>Also, I linked to this site from 3 other domains that have low page rank. The inbound links are all on the same IP address. The sponsor we link to from the root index is also on the same IP. Maybe it is that links are going too and from the site all on the same IP address.
5 weeks isn't all that long, and it may not be that the IPs are the issue. It sounds like there just isn't enough Page Rank to qualify for indexing.
>>My index page is just under 100 links to subdirectories named after key-words.
Divide low PR to begin with by 100 links and those subdirectory pages end up with just about zilch.
We have to remember that the Pro's out there who crank out hundreds of pages at a clip and populate the SERPs with them probably have well distributed networks of sites with decent PR already in place that they can use to run up the PR with before they even go out the gate with new sites. It takes some mighty sophisticated planning to pull it off effectively. Not too many are that skilled.
You say they're grey barred now. Were they ever in the index at any time?
>> How does google determine to make a site go south? Is this human interaction of Google staff that viewed the site and noted it as spam? Is it a bot that uses mathamatics to determine it?
Of course that's diluting the anchor text for the main page, but that's neither here nor there.
>> what do you mean by diluting the anchor text for the main page? I was under the impression that using the same text in the link title as the keyword phrase on the same page was adding top SE results value.
Were those subdirectory pages created individually with users in mind, or were they generated by some kind of software?
>> They were created individually. I create one template in Dreamweaver and build the subpages from that. The page contains 4 editable areas. Title, Header, Image, Footer. About 40% of the text is different on each subpage.
5 weeks isn't all that long, and it may not be that the IPs are the issue.
>> Should all inbound and outbound urls have different IP addresses? Does google look for this as a determining factor in crawling deeper into a site? I have my own servers, we have blocks of IP addresses. If it is neccessary to use different IPs I surely will.
It sounds like there just isn't enough Page Rank to qualify for indexing.
>> There isn't enough PageRank for indexing the subpages or the root page? The root page is indexed with a PageRank of 0.
Divide low PR to begin with by 100 links and those subdirectory pages end up with just about zilch.
>> I am not looking for a PageRank other than 0 on the subpages. As long as they are indexed by google. I have seen Competitor sites with PageRank 0 and 90-100 subpages each that were all also PageRank 0. All of the competitor subpages come up in top google search results. I deal in Niche, the total of resulting sites is not over 20,000.
We have to remember that the Pro's out there who crank out hundreds of pages at a clip and populate the SERPs with
>>Yes mass production is a smart move once you have a successful process and structure to duplicate.
They have well distributed networks of sites with decent PR already in place that they can use to run up the PR with before they even go out the gate with new sites.
>>Is it important to have one high PR site with related conent? I would use the high PR site to link to the new sites? This would insure the newly launched sites are crawled fully and indexed?
>>Just a note. The competitor sites with root and subpages with a PageRank 0 have no inbound links. Each of the competitors sites track over 5k unique visitors daily between the root index and subpages. I don't see PageRank value of keyword phrases as having a big difference on google search results ranking position when your promoting in the niche sector.
Maybe they link to them for the first few months until the root and subpages are indexed and then they remove the inbound links to help PageRank value of the inbound sites? From what I was told google feels that the more sites you link too the less important the sites linking too are. But if you have a high PageRank value and you link to only one or two sites it considers the sites you link to worthy of higher Rank Value.
It takes some mighty sophisticated planning to pull it off effectively. Not too many are that skilled.
>> I love the challenge.
You say they're grey barred now. Were they ever in the index at any time?
>> No the subpages have never been indexed "yet". I am hoping the google bot will come around for a full sweep.
