Will Google kick through a major update soon?

The current index needs a big refresh

[truemat]

They really could do with a serious and complete update reflecting content and back link changes.

My sites have been stuck in the same positions for ages despite links being increased and refinements to the meta.

Any thoughts?

[skipfactor]

Seems more like a monthly cycle, pretty stagnant from here with exception of fresh tags on index pages.

[mrguy]

And how does changing backlinks help the average surfer?

What refinements to the Meta, Google may read meta tags in some instances, but it does not use them.

For the SERPs I watch, the index looks just fine to me! Never looked better as a matter of fact.

I guess freshness is in the eye of beholder or who ever is lower in the SERPs;)

[hazardtomyself]

Google has been picking up my meta changes from 2-4 days and my backlinks (though not updated on the GoogleBar) in 1-2 weeks.

[ulysee]

I hope that we are in for a big update but I doubt it. Google probably has updated already with my site maintaining the same postions after acquiring 100's of backlinks.

[plasma]

SERPs have changed yesterday for one of my keywords.
This is usually only the case once a month (exception: new pages)
I estimated Oct 17 so this indeed looks like the monthly update (PR and backlinks will follow in about 3 days).
-sj looks to me like the most recent index at the moment (for my sites).

[christodd]

I've been tripping on this. Since they ditched deepbot (I'm assuming she's gone since I've never been touched by her, and my site's been up since August). I get daily visits from FreshDeepBot, and I keep my home page updated to keep this happening.

So my home page get's good placement by being fresh, ending up at the top of strange stuff like "[remove'd cause i'm a newbie]" and such.

So since August, they must have updated the indexes at least once, cause my site has 6 backlinks. None of the backlinks have my URL on them currently, or in google's cache, since they were all guestbooks postings. But it bought me a 5/10 page rank right off the bat.

I recently wrote a SQL tutorial, and google FreshDeepBot just spidered it yesterday morning. Today it appeared in the search results.

Now, I've got a SQL tutorial, ranked #1 for search term "[remove'd cause i'm a newbie]" and pretty nice for other searches, but if I search for "[remove'd cause i'm a newbie]" , which is the start of my title, I end up second, underneath a page that links to mine.

But google doesn't show any backlinks for my page.

My fear is that today is the only day they will show up, because of the fresh "boost", but that it'll disappear until the indexes are updated.

What do you guys think? Does this happen to anybody else? I think it's been about 2 months since the last index update... anybody got any clues?

[edited by: christodd at 8:42 pm (utc) on Oct. 16, 2003]

[plasma]

Welcome to WW christodd.

I suggest quickly removing any specific keywords and sitenames from your post and to read the TOS ;)

[christodd]

thanks plasma.. imma newbie....

if this was counter-strike, you would 0wn me

[plasma]

if this was counter-strike, you would 0wn me

Roger That

[Arnett]

Google has been picking up my meta changes...

Which meta tag changes do you think that Google is reading? Awhile back they decided to ignore all meta tags because of spamming. They may be reading them now though...

[jcoronella]

Google is reading and using meta description tag. Don't know about others. I don't know if they are using it for ranking, but they are using it in the SERPs for sites (can't figure out a rule that they use for choosing the meta versus text on the page)

[christodd]

I'm finding that they use the words around anchor text to your site, and the topic of sites that refer to you for page rank relevancy. Page rank weighs heavily in many types of searches (1 and 2 words).

But most of all, the page TITLE seems to be the primary search matching phrase, particularly for fresh content.

-Chris

[Marval]

The normal pattern for using the description Meta is if there is no to very little text on page, then they will grab the description meta for their listing

[christodd]

oh yeah.. listing is nothing if your description tag sucks. Make sure your description is, um, well... descriptive. I never click on a link with a description like :

"wild live hot sql chicks undress where join oracle licking order by mysql jet database error select statement"

Even if it was the top listing of 20,000,000. But I would click on one that read :

"This is where hot chicks undress and teach order and select statements. Fix your mysql jet database error and see live girls lick sql statements."

Well, maybe I wouldn't click on that.... but it's an example.