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Does the toolbar really submit to Google?

         

gihan

4:29 am on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Somebody mentioned to me that if you have the Google toolbar installed, then every page you visit will be submitted to Google. Is this true?

I know that this has been raised before, but I can't find a definitive answer, either on this forum or elsewhere. It's all speculation and rumours.

If it is true, then it could be a very useful tool. For example, I could go to other search engines (e.g. AllTheWeb.com), find the pages linking to my site using the

link:
query (or equivalent), and visit them to ensure that they get submitted to Google (just in case they haven't been submitted already).

Thanks in advance for your help!

Gihan

gnomedeplum

4:33 am on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It definitely does not do it *all* the time. However, I think that if you have the advanced features turned on (ie the page rank bar) that some times google sends freshbot after pages that haven't been crawled before.

Going to a place like All The Web in the hopes that Google will crawl your site are a little unlikely in my opinion.

You would be much better off building quality content which people would want to link to.

Woz

4:34 am on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi gihan, welcome to WebmasterWorld.

>Is this true?

There has been much speculation and denial on this sybject from both sides of the story. I guess the best answer anyone can come up with is a "definite possible maybe".

Onya
Woz

gihan

2:07 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the quick replies. I guess the jury is out on this one, so it's best not to assume that it will work.

By the way, gnomedeplum wrote:

> Going to a place like All The Web in the hopes that Google
> will crawl your site are a little unlikely in my opinion.
> You would be much better off building quality content which
> people would want to link to.

Ah, you misunderstood me. The site already has quality content with lots of incoming links.

My point was about ensuring that Google knows about all those incoming links, by submitting all those pages to Google. If the Google toolbar did this automatically, it would be kinda neat.

Gihan

smxcorp

2:48 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All things consider I think that it may trigger a response from googlebot as I have seen on a couple of occasions site spidered after they have been looked at.

A great example of this is a couple of my own domains. I only registered them on the

Creation Date: 12-oct-2003

And they are in the Google index already and I have definatly not submitted them..!

claus

3:28 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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smxcorp, did you link to this site from other sites?

Can anyone confirm smxcorps findings in the opposite case - without having viewed these sites with the toolbar?

Ie. domain bought - website uploaded, crawled, and indexed without submitting or linking, and fast too.

smxcorp

4:19 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are 4 other sites that are linked together but they where all bought at the same time. Obviously GoogleBot has found one of them and then followed the links to the other sites.

GoogleBot actually crawled every page on all the sites but there is only the index page from each of them in the SERPS at the moment.

Wierd no..!

PatrickDeese

4:24 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I habitually put sites in temp folders on one of my own domains while they are under construction.

ie: www.example.com/clientdomain/

Imagine my surprise when an entire subdirectory that was up in a subdirectory started getting hits from google - no incoming links, no referrer log trails, nothing like that at all.

In the end I activated the client's domain server and 301'd the entire subdirectory to the new domain. Seemed a shame to throw away the hits.

ogletree

4:31 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here is a good thread about that

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richardb

5:29 pm on Oct 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Imagine my surprise when an entire subdirectory that was up in a subdirectory started getting hits from google - no incoming links, no referrer log trails, nothing like that at all.

Surprised me too but I've only seen this happen in the last few months... Still on the old toolbar (I think) V2.0.95. Checked nope the new one - never gave them permission!

So how far back does this spyware go?