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My web's page rank went down immediately

         

TomekLawreszuk

5:58 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have re-designed my web using new template, before that my web had pagerank of #5 main page, #4 subpages, after two weeks with new template main page is #3, subpages #2, any ideas what happened? Both sites where html. Could this problem be that links on the new page we bulided:
Main page- web address.subpage, before it was:
main page-subpage

?

instand1

10:51 am on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If the keyword is in a more competitive field (more than 100 000 pages in the Google index) I would guess: It has nothing to do with the changes you made, it is just the normal fluctuation.
If it is in less competive field and you have never experienced such ups and downs before: It could still be a minorchange in Google's algo, that happens and might come back to the previous status quo.
Such minor changes do not matter: I would just wait and see, what happens next.

In case your changes did have an impact (Have you checked whether the new version of your pages is already in the google cache? If not: It is unlikely that the change in ranking is caused by your change in template), changes in the link-structure or keyword-density might be the cause.

You have not switched to frames?

Spannerworks

11:50 am on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Does all your new sub pages have PR? If they don't it's possile that Google hasn't calculated the PR for all the sub pages, so hasn't passed back all the sub pages PR to the home page.

Remember the home page PR is made up of the incoming links from off-site and on-site links.

These days looking at the cache is not enough as it's way off with PR updates.

Should also consider PR recalibration, which would have take place with PR updates. Though a drop from 5 to 3 seams severe, its possible.

You should aldo consider any external links deep linking to your old pages.

instand1

1:49 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, I misunderstood # = 'Ranking position' for one of your keywords.
Reading Spannerworks' answer I think he got it right.

Anyway: I experienced that a drop in PageRank did NOT harm the ranking position for my keywords. So do not bother too much about a drop in RageRank shown, as long as your position in the SERPS remains the same.

shakaal

2:29 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hello Guys,
I am facing a similar problem with a twist. I redesigend our website with a new template. I have made heavy use of CSS and there is some extra javascript which I have kept in a separate file. The page is mostly html. The pagerank of our webiste had dropped to 4 even before we did the redesign. This had prompted us to do the redesign. Google has never indexed more than the home page of this website. This website was created out of our main website which continues to do well. We had always thought that may be due to similarity of content google did not wish to spider more than the home page of the younger sibling. So in our redesign we changed the content too. Prior to the redesign this website had always enjoyed No.1 spot for a very crucial keyword while our main website would follow in the 4th or 5th spot. This continued to happen after the redesign.
But approximately after two weeks of the new design being launched the website has dropped to the third page for that keyword (something that has never happened) and our competitor who has smaller page rank than us and very sparse density of keywords is now occupying the No.1 spot. To top this all, Google has still not indexed the inside pages of the redesigned website. One thing to be noted here is that our main website has stayed stable throughout this turmoil for that particular keword i.e. at the fourth spot.
could someone tell me what we should do to bring the redesigned website back up? Why google refuses to spider the inside pages? Why did we get dropped for a keyword for which we have always maintained the top position? Side note- I did notice that the homepage of the redesigned page is 35k, while the earlier home page used to be around 22k. The reason for increase in size is that the powers wished to have more jazz on the homoe page. This included pull down menus ( I used CSS for that ) and an automatic slide show that would play on the home page changing the pictures every 5 seconds from a bank of 30pictures.
I know this is a long post...took me some time to write it down....So any worthwhile answer will be appreciated.
thank you

instand1

8:49 pm on Oct 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As discussed in many threads: anchor-text is at present one the most important factors for good ranking. If a re-design of a site means new page names, there is a phase when anchor-text in links from other pages of the same site is not helping (given the fact that not all pages are indexed immediately, often at first only the index-page makes it into the SERPS, the other pages may come weeks later...).

TomekLawreszuk

9:06 am on Oct 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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After few days, everything is as it was, I did not switch to frames. Hopefully it will stay as it is right now, thanks guys.