Does Google's site search tool help site PR?

Google's site tools - a benefit or not?

[Global Wayne]

I wondered if a large busy site using Google's site search technology would derive any benefit in raising PR for the site at all?

[John_Caius]

No. That would completely contravene the natural linking policy of Google. It doesn't give any 'special' boost for sites like dmoz either.

Use the site search if it will enhance your site for your users. Get more and better inbound links if you want to improve your Google ranking.

[claus]

Welcome to WebmasterWorld Global_Wayne :)

Outside of ranking and PR issues - to be able to present results from your site, Google will have to spider it.

Any evindence that this helps in getting pages spidered and indexed faster?

I would suspect it to help, but does it?
(Still, just spidering and indexing, so that the pages can be found in the normal search outside the site - regardless of ranking)

/claus

[dirkz]

Of course there won't be any PR gain. That would be too easy :)

Very interesting point, Claus :)

I have several fresh sites, maybe I could setup an experiment.

Btw, do you know when the next update will be?

[Global Wayne]

Thanks for that everyone. I have been working on a very old site that has 8 years history in travel. Google has done a great job of indexing my site so I am using their search facility for end users. It will be interesting to see if refreshes happen any quicker - as we are currently rewriting the entire 1000 pages. Plenty of fresh content!
Thanks again!
/Wayne

[dirkz]

Wayne, I'm looking forward to your results :)

[claus]

>> when the next update will be?

Google is updating continually now, not just once a month. A few changes happen all the time.

/claus

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Added: Something's going on right now it seems: [webmasterworld.com...]

[Global Wayne]

Hi again! Pleased to report that refreshes seem to have happened in the past 4 days for new data on the new pages :-)

Whether this is coincidental or not is hard to know. The Search engine page is receiving around 25 searches a day - which is NOT a lot - but enough to show interest in the domain I guess.
/Wayne

[dirkz]

Could be coincidence. Google had an "update" around the weekend (SERPs were very unstable), so I guess they also factored in new content.

[Global Wayne]

Hmm - search engine is now at around the same level - 25 searches a day. Our site has over 10 regional directorys. Pages uploaded Tuesday night and submitted refreshed last night - Thursday Australian time.

Now we have a grip on the Google concept we are leap frogging up into the early - and I must add that this is on topic content.

We are now rejigging the content etc... the more we conform with links, page names and reference words within the pages the more Google slips us up the SERPs.

We have always had good PR - well 4 was good in our eyes for our old page structure - but while we are climbing the results our PR has disappeared completely from the front page(s).

We believe that it may be a time issue to find the new content page names and structure. We'll know in around 14 days time I guess.

The only exercise that we have done that could be viewed as spam is the alt text within the diced images. Could that be an issue with Google?

This is all looking promising!

All we need to do now is out rank the domain spammers around our content search strings and we will be happy.

/Wayne

[Global Wayne]

Hi again!

I think not coincidence - the site was spidered and updated on the 7th & 9th and visible the day after. Still only receiving 25 searches a day - but as we update the site we are providing more access to the search facility.

/Wayne

[claus]

That sounds great - fast indexing and good SERPS as well, congrats :)

I think the good serps are due to the changes of the pages, but the fast indexing could have something to do with the searchbox. Otherwise, Gbot could just have registered that the files are being worked on, and decided to increase frequency.

/claus