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sagerock

3:20 pm on Sep 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As some of you know, Google isn't always indexing titles and content descriptions for some sites. This is what they write:
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<snip>Description of 'URL-only' listings where Google haven't fetched the page content yet</snip>
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I've seen some reports of this on the board. But I was curious if this was an ongoing problem for any of you.

It comes up in my experience as I have one client who has this problem and there is a fellow seo who has contacted me to research this further.

So, any updates on your end would be greatly appreciated.

Take care all!

[edited by: ciml at 5:18 pm (utc) on Oct. 1, 2003]
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richardb

6:20 am on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nope never seen that before!

What is different about the page structure?
Is it hand coded?

Be interested to know.

Rich

davidpbrown

8:39 am on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've seen this as pages move through 404 or 301 updating and understood this to be purgatory.

I think I've seen suggestion that this so that an unreachable page is checked a couple of times before it's removed. This so that a server down doesn't remove pages for ~?six weeks.

my 2 cents..
davidpbrown

Mohamed_E

12:27 pm on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I believe that this is a Google glitch that may be resolving.

During most of the spring and summer I had, at any time, about 5% of my pages in that category, allinurl: would show the URL where the title should be, no title, no snippet and no cache. The actual pages excluded would change, with no discernable pattern.

Today I only have a couple of pages in that category, plus several pages that are in the process of being dropped (renamed with a 301). So I see an improvement in the problem, and hope that it is on its way to resolution.

CCowboy

3:15 pm on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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sagerock

All the pages in question do have a full site of tags, Right!

Also what is the layout of the page? Is is it HTML text or lots of Flash or java ect.

The only time I have seen anyting close to this is when running a frames page without a full set of Meta Tags.

Skier

4:15 pm on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google is very slow to update my home page title.

A few months ago we accidentally removed the title code from our index page. I did not notice it until Google results started showing a new title.

A few weeks ago we caught this and put the original title back into the code.

Despite daily visits by Google bots, the title just won't update. It's been over a month..

sagerock

4:57 pm on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Both my client and this other company's client are straight html pages. All the pages have titles descriptions and all standard coding. There's no spam on either site.

I'd love to show you an example of this. But I can't show you my two examples and other examples are hard to find.

Actually, developer.apple.com has a bit of this problem. It's not wide spread but some of their pages are not appearing with titles and descriptions. You can see some examples at this point in Google:
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Moving through these listings shows this kind of result every so often. This might be an example of what Mohamed_E was saying, that it is getting resolved.

In my case, all the listings are this way.

jakegotmail

5:11 pm on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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test

Mohamed_E

5:15 pm on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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sagerock,

What you are showing on the Apple site is exactly what I am seeing on mine.

sagerock

6:14 pm on Oct 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I sent an email to webmaster@google.com. I'll let you know if they come back with anything.

I went through all the listings of my client's on Google. Some do have titles.

I believe GoogleGuy wrote here that possibly the site was down when they crawled it. That could be a possibility.

CCowboy

4:24 am on Oct 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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sagerock,

The pages I saw did not have a "description tag" or a keywords tag.

sagerock

12:36 pm on Oct 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi CCowboy,

The description comes from the body content of the page.

I was emailed back by Google. They were really fast! The basic jist of the letter was that what I mentioned is correct. My pages our currently "partially" indexed. While this doesn't effect PR or my inclusion within the index, there currently is no content for the pages.

They are working to change the way partially indexed pages appear in the results. So I think the title and description of these kind of pages will be a little better in the future.

They go on to say that Google crawls a cycle every four to six weeks.

So, while it was very kind that they wrote, I guess we have to wait it out.