How to Tell if a Site is Banned / Penalized?

[Tupur]

How can one tell if a site is penalized by Google? Especially a brand new one? Is there a way out there to be sure if googlebot really came and spidered - or it is still to be spidered?

CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP?

[benc007]

Tupar,

If your site has a PageRank 0, your site can either be new or banned. There is a lot of controversy about this right now. Check out the other forums.

[Yidaki]

>How can one tell if a site is penalized by Google? Especially a brand new one?

Depends on your definition of brand new.
Normaly brand new means way to early to draw conclusions about a possible penalty. Not being well listed or even not being listed at all with a brand new site doesn't mean it's penalized.

[larpo]

What about having your brand new site listed one minute, and then having it cleaned out the next?

This appears to be what happened to me and a friend of mine with a related site simultaneously.

Googlebot has visited my site, but at the moment, I am not even indexed. A week ago my site was ranking really well...!

[caine]

New site strategy for G. ultra specific.

from brand new - new domain - new host - 2 months too wipe the floor off competition.

1 * ODP listing = PR 4
1 * Yahoo listing = PR 5

some very strong on target PR 5 links. funny thing is that G is neither showing any of the stronger links as backlinks yet, but the site with a PR 2 is sweeping the floor for its keywords on G, as well as MSN, and ATW.

I am a happy bunny and waiting for the ROI to roll in from it - pretty high ticket stuff.