someone else 'seo'd' one of my sites

and i think it will get banned....

[benihana]

just had a weird discovery. one of the sites i look after has a doorway domain pointing to it with some kind of meaning full content, stuffed full of keyword-keyword-keyword links, pointing to the main site. Naturally it has a keyword-keyword domain, and a 5 second redirect.

its just one page, blatantly to increase inbound anchor text, and would not pass a hand inspection.

its not currently listed in G, i found it at alltheweb.

my site is no. 2 on google, and nowhere on atw.

should i be worried?

cheers

[jecasc]

I don't think you have to worry. Links pointing to your site don't have negative effects on your listing in google or your PR. Otherwise everybody would produce spam sites pointing to competitors in order to influence their listing negativly.
Only links from your site to spam sites could have negative impact on your PR and listing. (Known as "linking to bad neighbourhood")

[plasma]

Links pointing to your site don't have negative effects on your listing

Are you serious?

That means Everybody can get tons of domains with tons of links linking to the 1 and only important site, without being penalized?

All you have to do is not linking back.

That sounds to easy.

[raidersfan]

Those sites would not have a positive effect either unless you built up their PR and who is going to want to link to them?

[plasma]

Those sites would not have a positive effect either unless you built up their PR and who is going to want to link to them?

It's about keywords in the first place.

But even with PR:
Somewhere the PR has to come from initially.
Where is this singularity?
I doubt that there is such a single place where each PR-Quantum comes from :)
I think even a page with 0 PR gives away a microscopic small PR.
"Everything Counts in large amounts" *sing*

[edited by: plasma at 6:00 pm (utc) on Sep. 11, 2003]

[mil2k]

Links pointing to your site don't have negative effects on your listing in google or your PR

While in general this statement is true , there might be exceptions.

[benc007]

"Links pointing to your site don't have negative effects on your listing in google or your PR"

From what I've read, your PR is calculated as an average of the PRs of the sites linking to you. If this is the case, how can links pointing to your site not have negative effects on your PR?

If 500 sites link to you and they all have PR0 and you now have a PR5, wouldn't your PR drop?

[twilight47]

They wouldn't have any negative effect, however, they also won't have any positive effect either.

[plasma]

your PR is calculated as an average of the PRs of the sites linking to you

No.
Definitely not.
Every Link to you adds only PR, it's not the avg.

But if you don't get penalized for 'bad' links why shouldn't _we_ not do this too?

It's frustrating. The bad guys cheat and won't be penalized and we shall play by the rules?

[benihana]

Links pointing to your site don't have negative effects on your listing in google or your PR

While in general this statement is true , there might be exceptions.

this is what im worried about.

we used to be listed (albeit badly) in atw. now, we dont exist. it would be a nightmare if g decided we were trying to trick them.

[benihana]

update.
ive been in touch with the guy who paid me to build the site, and he says he never paid anyone for seo work.

a whois on the dodgy domain shows nothing - no nameservers, registrars - nothing.

any advice?

id quite like to get the site removed - so i can sleep a little easier.
cheers

[jecasc]

@plasma

That means Everybody can get tons of domains with tons of links linking to the 1 and only important site, without being penalized?

Yes. You can get tons of domains and tons of links pointing on www.widget.com - www.widget.com won't get penalized. But the spammy sites pointing to it will be penalized or won't even make it into the google index.

Imagine I was a competitor of widget.com and wanted to get them out of google. If all I had to do is just linking to them with a few spam sites that wouldn't make much sense.

@benihana
As long as your site does not link to bad sites you don't have to worry.

[Sharper]

It's a "redirection server" (their term), run by the company at net-work dot net.

They seem connected to www dot technologyhouse dot co dot uk.

So just ring them up (number on pages) and ask them what the heck they're doing.... :)

[seofreak]

>>While in general this statement is true , there might be exceptions.

could u please shed some light?

[plasma]

While in general this statement is true , there might be exceptions.

I guess what he means is that if it's obvious (whois information etc.) that the profiteer is the cheater, that they could penalize him too.

However, I filed many spam reports and none of them ever lead to a penalty.
I'm fed up.

[Arnett]

should i be worried?

Be glad if anybody links to you. Regardless of their PR the link and the anchor text count as a "vote" for your site.

[benc007]

If I can get hundreds of pages with high PR and irrelevant content / theme to link to me, would there be any disadvantages or penalties?

Would this boost my PR and SERPS for my keywords?