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Why am I talking about this? Well, Kalman filters have a knob that blends between how much you believe your model vs. how much you believe each new data point. If you tweak the knob all the way in one direction, you always trust the model and any new input just gets ignored. On the other extreme, you can ignore your current estimates about the state of the world, and only trust each new data point as it comes in. If you set the knob too far in that direction, the object you're trying to model jumps all over the place each time you see even a hint of new info.
Lots of people here are getting more stressed than they need to be--their knobs are turned a little too far toward worrying about the very last thing that happened: "Now my subpage is coming up higher than it should! Okay, now my index page is back and the SERPs look good. Gaaack! Now I'm showing well at DC but the subpage still shows up higher at FI! Too much pressure--I'm going to drink now, and start spamming every FFA I see tomorrow!" :)
If you look around, you'll notice not too many senior members posting here. They chime in every so often, but their knobs are twisted further in the other direction. They know that the index switchover takes a little time to settle, and they have the perspective not to get too worried about things right now, and in general.
I haven't posted much of my take lately, but if I could give advice, it would probably be: don't panic. Here's what I would expect. Probably about one data center per day will get switched to the Esmeralda index. You may see some improvements during the course of the switchover as ingredients get blended in as they're ready. I would expect another round of ingredient-adding after the index is switched over.
So: if you're really into Google-watching as a sport, I would check in once a day to see what data centers have been switched, and maybe to run 2-3 searches. Browse a little while, and then come back the next day. Find something fun to do at night besides poring over every last thing that GoogleGuy (or whoever) posts on WebmasterWorld. You'll feel better, I promise.
This is just my take. You're welcome to ignore it. But I mention it because during this index, I heard about a lot of good and bad searches from webmasters, and the more I dig, the more confident I am that things will turn out well.
a) leave as is and get no orders
b) javascript redirect and run the risk of been kicked out next month
c) Cloaking
Dave
same as the others!
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alltheweb: 1
alta vista: 2
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also, i remember with dominic, GG said about various filters etc being added over time which would affect the results even if slightly but my site remained the same place for all my kws. this time, various ingredients are said to be added after the index spreads, which means to me that my site will remain the same place just like last time.
I just want someone to explain to me why at the beginning of the update my site went from number one on -fi to number 21 a couple days later. Any ideas?
Any one else? I am in India!
I see google.co.uk different to .com which wasn't so a couple of hours ago.
I see .com different to DC2 and 3.
I see -ex different to -fi.
Dave,
I would go with a), no changes until all is settled down.
My index pages returned yesterday, but a completely different site disappeared on its main term (from #5 to #93) today. It's still there on the sub-terms/lesser-keywords.
If this isn't just part of the dance, it's absolute madness. Maybe they are trying just a little TOO hard to catch spammers and losing the plot because of it? Or maybe some 'ingredient-adding' will suddenly address it all? I certainly hope so.
This is certainly the last dance I watch... EVER. It's just far too stressful!
IMO, this appears to be the entire theme of Esmeralda.
Every time Google finds an aspect of their ranikng algo that they feel is being too heavily exploited, they alter things a bit. The sum of all this seems to be a very oddly scored index.
Most of what they appear to be fixing is leading to a general deterioration of the SERPS. It is a slow slide, but a decline nonetheless.
In my case, I have enough stuff out there that I am not usually effected too much by the updates anymore. This is the first time, however, that any newer sites I work on are totally buried in the SERPS and have unbearably low PR's.
I'm seeing the new index on these datacenters:
-sj, -ab, -dc, -ex, -va, -zu, -fi
The remaining two datacenters (-in and -cw) have the old data.
the update is done?
Even if the new index was on all of the datacenters, I wouldn't say that the update is done. Googleguy indicated that there would be some more ingredients added after the new index is on all datacenters.
Beth
P.S. I'm in the US.
[edited by: bether2 at 3:53 pm (utc) on June 20, 2003]
In last 24 have seen some new links crawled. FAR from a seriously deep crawl, but perhaps it's the beginning, or then again maybe FRESHdeepBot is just getting "freshie" with it. Time will tell.
If anyone else has reports on spider activity on pages that are new from the last 2 months, but on an old site, please chime in.
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Is this the datacenter where the next dance takes place? It has picked up some new content and pages from my site.
Johnny Dequino
OK, for a new website that just got its links in, when the update has fully completed and settled, what is the length of time that it takes for all the results to start showing on the main google index?
I keep hearing that its takes about a week, is this true? If that's the case then I do not understand. If the results from the main index are being pulled from the other datacenters then why other week? Shouldn't it be immediately after the update has been completed in these datacenters?
I want to know when will this results be shown for the world to see live?
This is all very confusing to me. Can someone clear this up for me please?
I think we still need to sit tight.
Peter
In the past when google update settled. Where the new results posted a week later like I have been hearing? There has to be some history of this when google was consistent.
All 5 centers are far and away superior on the number of post April 10 pages, none of which show up in -in or -cw.
This is my gauge of when everything is falling into place. Also PR on one of our sites has been bouncing up and down over the last couple of days.
I have discuss a bit about your question here.
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