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PR0 after site offline during jan crawl

Now 2 updates later still PR0 Why?

         

rudy

8:37 pm on Apr 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My site was offline for 7 days way back for Jan crawl. During the Feb update my site received a PR0(PR2 before)
The site has been online solid since I changed hosts back in January and my site has appeared easier in google but I am still PR0 after 2 updates and losing major traffic.
I am and have been listed in dmoz and google directory for more than 1.5 years. Can someone tell me what is happening?

Dave_T

11:06 pm on Apr 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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is your page in google index?
If you don't know how to check here's how:
in google's search box type:
site:www.yoursite.com www.yoursite.com
This query approximately shows how many pages of your site in Google's index.

If you changed your web hosting, the chance is google hasn't update its dns, so the bots probably still trying to crawl your old IP.

Dave

rudy

4:56 pm on Apr 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My site is in the google directory. How do I find out if the bot is still trying to crawl the old Ip. If it is trying to crawl the old IP why am I listed on google now?
The old IP is offline so if it crawled this it would result in a no index and no update. But I am in the update and the index finally but with a PR of 0 as opposed to 2 which is what it was before.
I have updated the server dns names on the registrar for the server ip but do I need to update the dns server names as well at the registrars website?

futureX

10:24 pm on Apr 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i'd like to know how you get "major traffic" from a pr2 site :¦

rudy

11:50 pm on Apr 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I guess I used the wrong words. Compared to what I am getting now it was more than double the traffic. I was getting about 150 hits per day.

rudy

10:36 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ok. I have discovered another mystery. When I try to connect with my domain via ftp the client still tries to connect to the old dead host. This is not a error with the settings. I am in a new country new computer. I also tried connecting via command prompt. So why would ftp point to old host after 4 months but http and any other protocol point to the new host. And if http protocol points to the new host why would googlebot still try to crawl the old host. What protocol does googlebot use. Is it safe to say that if ftp points to the old host so would googlebot.

jezzer72

10:52 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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" So why would ftp point to old host after 4 months but http and any other protocol point to the new host "

Your isp's dns servers can only resolve one ip address for a hostname, there is no such thing as a different dns entry for different protocols. Better check your settings again, and have a chat with your local isp. Which country are you now btw?

rudy

11:30 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am in Brazil now. I had this same problem in canada so I dont think it is isp problem. Could it be a setting on the server dns side

daamsie

1:25 am on Apr 30, 2003 (gmt 0)



Is your site a PR0 (white bar) or Unranked (grey bar)? If it is PR0, this won't be due to google missing your site while it was down - it would be unranked in that case. A PR0 either means that you don't have enough incoming links to rank well, or your site has been penalized.

rudy

5:41 pm on Apr 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The bar is white . PR0. It cant be unranked because it has been in google and dmoz for 1.5 years at pr2. It was also pr0 now for 2 updates so maybe it has been penalized for googlebot not finding it. Here is a message I got from my administrator as to what the problem might be.

"Basically you have not moved your domains's DNS to your own server and
the mysite.net base addy was still pointing at the old server.
You will need to register ns1.mysite.net / ns2.mysite.net as
nameservers at your domain register."

Does this make sense to you guys?

rudy

8:41 pm on Apr 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I should clarify here. The host had his own domain name for the name servers for me such as ns1.hosting.com and ns2.hosting.com. Right now if I do a internic search on whois name servers the hosting companies' ns name comes up.
The server admin has set it up so that the name server is the same domain as my website name. So ns1.mysite.net and ns2.mysite.net . But the name servers at my registrar is still set to the hosting companies ns name such as ns1.hosting.com and not ns1.mysite.net.

daamsie

11:50 pm on Apr 30, 2003 (gmt 0)



Hi Rudy,

Being in DMOZ (or even Google directory) for a year and a half is not a guarantee that your site is in the google search index. If google can't find you when crawling, the site wouldn't be indexed at all - unranked (grey bar). This happened to me several months ago and my site was grey for a month, then jumped back to its PR6 that it had previously.

If you have a PR0 (white), it is NOT because google came when your site was down - it is because your incoming links aren't high enough PR or you have been penalized for some dodgy SEO practices.

Others have also claimed that google occasionally bans complete IP address.. I don't know the truth of this, but considering you have just moved your site to a new server (I presume a shared one) - it may be worth asking others if they think this might be the problem - particularly if you are convinced you have no dodgy code on your site!