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doc_z

9:34 pm on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know that Google works fine for PHP (at least if you avoid id). However, does anybody know, if the Toolbar distinguishes between different pages which use the same file? For example, if you have pages of type "index.php?topic=1" with different numbers, is the PR value given in the Toolbar correct?

I'm talking about real PR not guessed PR, i.e. pages that are indexed in Google and show backlinks (thus, PR must be real).

Exists an example with different (real) PR for such pages?

The reason I'm asking is that I noticed some strange PR results. The simplest explanation would be that Google's Toolbar doesn't distinguish between these pages. Of course, even if that would be true this doesn't mean that Google gives these pages the same PR. Probably just the PR shown in the Toolbar isn't correct, i.e. always the same.

BGumble

10:13 pm on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can tell you for sure that any variables you add on to a PHP URL will have that page considered differently in terms of PageRank from the straight PHP file.

index.php?topic=1

will have a separate PR from

index.php

or

index.php?topic=2

Even if they generate the exact same file.

Rick_M

10:14 pm on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed on my site that the php dynamic pages have the same pagerank via the toolbar (3), but that some of the pages show up in the backlinks (usually need a PR4 or above). Also, some of the pages have many more external links, yet show the same pagerank as the rest. I'm guessing it is a quirk of the toolbar.

doc_z

10:19 pm on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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BGumble

can you give an example (or sticky mail it) where the Toolbar shows different PR?

texasbhoy

10:28 pm on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have noticed this as well.

I had one php page that created all the content with use of variables. Such as /page.php?topic=1 or /page.php/?topic2=7 The entire site had a PR of 3 no matter what the variable or reference point was.

I later decided to change the site to use more pages. Started changing it several months ago. I am still using php extensions but no variables (only one page still uses variables this is not the first page). I now have around 50 individual pages for the site. Most of the pages have a PR of 4 while the newest pages (added after the last crawl) have a PR of 3.

I think the reason I changed in PR was based upon having more pages for the site as the content itself did not change.

I would like to hear about this from someone with a larger site however.

BGumble

11:48 pm on Apr 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My site is a low PR7. I know it's low because I just got it a few months ago and I don't have many PR6 pages across the site even though I have almost no outbound links.

Root domain: [mydomain.com...] PR7
Root domain index: [mydomain.com...] PR6
Root domain alternate: [keyword.mydomain.com...] PR4 (same page results though)

I couldn't find any examples on my site where the query string made a visible difference in PR, but Google certainly considers them separate pages as you will often see www.site.com/forum/forumdisplay?forumid=10 and that will be significantly different from the forumid=9.

doc_z

9:47 am on Apr 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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BGumble

thanks for sticky mail the URL. Indeed, the situation is as described by you. However, I'm looking for cases where the URL is the exactly the same except for some number (the latter case you mentioned). The reason is that I though that the toolbar maybe truncates queries, i.e. the pages have different PR but Toolbar is showing the same value because the URL for PR query is truncated after the ".php".

Perhaps anybody else knows such an example and can post it.

doc_z

2:32 pm on Apr 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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vincevincevince

thank you for mailing the URL. Unfortunately, I don't see any PR for this domain so far.

BGumble

4:01 pm on Apr 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good point doc, I cannot provide any examples to prove that the toolbar is using the query string to differentiate between page PR.