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should give me a ranked list of my category and detail pages by PageRank. but I sometiems find PR 4 pages above PR 5 pages. It's "roughly" correcty, with PR 4 and 5 at the top and 1-3 at the bottom, but why does it bring PR 4 above PR 5?
After all there is no keyword that can be ranked higher or lower. The script name doesn't appear on the page.
so in effect its a "keywordless" search, simply to identify a particular page.
I thought in this case RAW PR should be te only ranking factor.
Google brings me millions of people every year. Not so the ones you have mentioned.
Therefore what you say is simply not true. They don't work.
And if everybody in the world sent me a dollar, I'd be rich.
It's like saying if MS didn't exist more people might use linux.... erm... yeah, I guess...
Maybe if all those wonderful search engines would index more than 52 (the number in Ink which is the highest of the "others") pages of my site opposed to Google's complete crawl of my 2400 pages, I would bother with them.
If they don't have all my pages indexed, I suspect that there are many other sites out there that they are missing out on.
Until they try a lot harder, to index everything, then Google its it.
My point (and this is the last time I will make it) is that if none of the other search engines is able to find more than 52 of my pages after 8 months and hundreds of high ranking incoming links, I have trouble believing that the other search engines come anywhere close to google in their coverage of the informational sites that I, and most surfers, am interested in.
They may have better search technology, but they have to index the sites I am interested in for it to actually be useful. They do not. I have tried several searches on the other engines and they never come anywhere near Google in the quality of their results.
I you search for sites that participate in PFI, then you probabl will do better.
But an allinurl search doesn't search for keywords in the body.
so in effect its a "keywordless" search, simply to identify a particular page.I thought in this case RAW PR should be te only ranking factor.
But there's really no reason to make the assumption that an "allinurl:" search is handled the same way as a regular query, with the results ranked by the same algorithms. Other types of searches, like "link:" for example, also don't seem to be -- and there's really no reason for them to be (other than that it'd help you to figure out the relative PageRanks of the set of pages).
nirelan2, have you considered the possibility of just starting a thread called "Jump on da Nirelan2 bandwagon - Dump Google today" instead of jumping unproductively from post to post to write trash on an se, which even you concede, is far and away the current people's choice?
So long as John and Jane Q Public prefer to use google substantially more than the other se's - folks who want the public to find them online are going to be curious about and be thinking about google.
I'm reminded of the snicker on when a reporter asked the outlaw why he robbed banks ... "Because that's where the money is."
Good enough for my purposes, but without some algorythmical way of getting the PR (like readign it of a page on google.com) I'll never be sure I haven't missed some PR5 pages somewhere deep in my database.
As you can imagin if I could identify a few 10s or 100s of PR5 in my 10000s of pages, then those would be valuable targets for paied advertisments.
I guess I'll keep going by traffik which is the ultimate ranker :)
PS: Thanks for bringing my post back on topic.
As a short smart a** answer to the question:
why does a ALLINURL search bring low PR above high PR sometimes?
for the same reason all the rest of their searches do.
should give me a ranked list of my category and detail pages by PageRank
This is incorrect.
PR is but one of 100 factors - by eliminating all pages that don't contain the word in the url - there are still - well 100 factors that could be used.
Oh wait - I think I get what you are misunderstanding:
ALLINURL doesn't mean:
JUST IN URL
If it did - what you say makes sense.
When it does an allinurl, it STILL keyword ranks the page for those terms. So if even one page has one of the words on te site, or some sites that link to it have it would be ranked higher.
That indeed explains it. Thanks.
