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All pages removed from google...

and graybar PR... strange...

         

rincey

8:00 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A new site (index first in 12/2002) ranked quite well after the last update for some keyword combinations. About 250 pages were included in Google and the main page had PR 3.

Sometimes during the last hours all pages have been removed from the Google index and my site shows a graybar now.

Is this any kind of banning? I have only few incoming links (but listed in DMOZ) but good content and use - as far as I can see - no forbidden or spammy techniques.

Quite strange... I guess I will sit back and wait. Any hints?

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Yidaki

8:21 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>I guess I will sit back and wait. Any hints?

Yes: don't sit back and wait. Better continue to work on getting more back links, work on writing content, work on your site's structure ... while you're waiting.

rincey

8:32 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yidaki, I meant the "sit back and wait" more in a metaphorical way :) If the site was really banned (which I don't think right now, perhaps just some index glitch) it would make no sense to get more backlinks to this domain, or would it?

I will continue updating during the next days, watch out for googlebot and - in some spare minutes - think about a new domain...

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Yidaki

8:38 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>index first in 12/2002

Give up a domain after three months? Are you feeling guilty? If your site is clean (read the google do's and dont's) you should better think about improving your site and not about trashing the domain, no!?

rincey

8:47 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the heads up... I guess I am just a bit nervous...

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heini

9:35 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd be damn nervous too if I had a site completely vanishing from the index, and toolbar showing grey. What exactly do you get when typing in the domain name?

hetzeld

9:59 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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rincey,

I've seen a few index/directory glitches early this morning, like a rollback to a previous index...
This made the site of one of my clients disappear completely for a short while.

Dan

rincey

10:05 am on Mar 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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just a short update:

about 2 days ago one of my sites vanished from google index and directory completely and shows a grey bar since. it did not reappear till now, but:

* various postings suggest that this happened to many others webmasters
* the site's pages are still available in the google archive
* both bots visited the site several times during the last 48 hours

does this indicate any kind of banning or does it point more into the direction of some temporary glitch?

i know this has been discussed to some extent already. but i am still a bit puzzled about this because till now nothing similar happened to me. i always thought: "once in google, always in google" but see now that we (and our business models) depend partially on googles grace...

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cornwall

10:31 am on Mar 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> it would make no sense to get more backlinks to this domain

Correct, if you have been banned by Google, getting more backlinks will not help at all. Your existing back links are ignored by Google, so will new ones.

If banned, you are a non site. First thing to do is to see why you may have been banned, and clean it up. Then either wait till the ban is lifted or try contacting them (not likely to get you far, unless they really have goofed).

As long as the error of your ways was not to extreme in the first place, you will eventually get reinstated (or have been up to now) perhaps with a lower PR that would be expected.

rincey

11:29 am on Mar 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If banned, you are a non site.

Which raises the question: Would freshbot visit my site if I am banned? At the moment it crawls - very slowly, but it crawls...

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allanp73

12:49 pm on Mar 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think the fact that it is crawling your site shows that it isn't banned. Be patient and see. It could be a glitch with Google. Do a search on Google for link:your-domain-name.com
What do you see? If there are links showing then things are fine.

gcn

1:55 pm on Mar 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Rincey:

* various postings suggest that this happened to many others webmasters
* the site's pages are still available in the google archive
* both bots visited the site several times during the last 48 hours

It happened to me... my site has been rolling along nicely for about 9 months and on Wednesday morning found out that I was no longer in the index and my site has a grey PR as well. I don't know if I did something wrong to trigger a (potential) ban but I'm trying to figure that out.

Some rumblings I am reading on the forums is that certain keywords have been targeted and some sort of clean-up was taken. If so, it looks like it affected me.

Strangely enough, my logs show that my site has been getting crawled since Wednesday. Is this a good sign? Under normal circumstances it is. So, is there some sort of glitch? I doubt it, the people at Google are way to smart and would get a handle on any glitches very quickly.

When I do a link:your-domain-name.com, I see all of my backlinks, but again that really does say much if my site may be banned.

I am also wondering if a competitor could have been behind it even though many people believe that this is a remote possibility. It's hard to completely discount this idea.

I'm just trying to understand and figure out what has happened. I've been working hard at my site, like every honest person on the web, and is not something I can just give up easily and walk away from. I guess whatever will be, will be... but hopefully things sort themselves out.

Thanks.