multiple keywords

[troi21]

i have been analysing the websites above me in the SERPs. One major competitor has been on the first page forever and doesn't move down at all. I had a look at their site map and the whole thing lists the individual pages on the site with the same anchor text. This being their best keyphrase. So basically, about forty instances of their keyphrase on one page, over and over again no matter what section of the site it links to. Isn't this spam big time? How can I compete when these practices aren't punished?

[Marketing Guy]

Its not spam if they use the keyword within phrases:

Widget Home
Widget Sales
Blue Widgets
etc etc

But I would say if they have every link as just "Widget" then it is spam - that's no use for the user.

Submit a spam report to google. Its only one keyword result - forget about it - target niche phrases and markets - move on with your life.

Scott :)

[ciml]

Hello troi. Feel free to review Google's guidelines [google.com] and take it up with them. Really, only Google can decide which URLs meet their quality requirements.

> How can I compete when these practices aren't punished?

Keep reading the forum. :-)

[o0_cops_0o]

www.sitenamewidget.org
www.sfgswidget.org
www.widget.org
www.widgetca.org
www.widgetd.org
www.widgetsitename.org
www.site-widget.com
www.masite.org
www.stitewidget.org
www.newnamewidget.org
www.widgetr.org
www.sitewidget1.org
www.newnamewidgetsite.org
www.widgetnewnamewidget.com
All these sites belong to one ip and takes the first 2 pages of google search on a keyword. The sites kind of look the same and the content is the same but he kind of re-worded everything. is this spam or is it legit?

[TeofenGL]

You kind of half-answered the question.

the content is the same

... it may be manually generated and marginally clever can of tinned meat, but it is what it is.

but i expect it to be pretty difficult to prove without much human intervention that this sort of thing is wholly illegitimate

[mrguy]

Report it and forget about it!

[o0_cops_0o]

I also checked his backlinks, 247 backlinks, some are from other sites and some are his own sites like posted in my first one

[o0_cops_0o]

How do i report this..what do i tell google? like TeofenGL said, how do i proove this, will google take the time that i just took to figure all this out? I had to visit each site and run a who is on all of them, check all the backlinks for all of them blah blah blah, took a while.

[creative craig]

Search on Google for google spam report

Craig

<added>Copy and paste what you said in your first post</added>

[TeofenGL]

I think if you just say in the rep form what you said here, it should be clear - if you just gave them 1 url and said "uh guys i think this is spam" they may not take the time, but if you present the whole array, and explain that it appears to be a case of masturbatory xlinking, they'll see it - they've gotten wiser to that sort of thing.
and it may help to mention it appears to be manually genned content

[edited by: TeofenGL at 4:17 pm (utc) on Mar. 14, 2003]

[mrguy]

Report them as duplicate sites using crosslinking to falsley influence the PR of each site. ( or explain on the form exacatly what you think the sites are doing ) Don't expect quick response.

Report it and move on.

Here is the link to report spam:

[google.com...]

[heini]

>Here is the link

Yup, exactly.

[Tony_Perry]

Just doing my usual monthly check of the competition as you do! and was very surprised to find a certain SEO company at No1 in Google.co.uk for their optimised phrases. Knowing the company I was somewhat surprised and did a little checking. Apart from keyword stuffed graphics on their own site I couldn’t find anything else wrong, so I investigated their backward links.

Holly mosses! Nearly every site that links to them is stuffed with hidden keywords and 90% of them are associated with them in some way or another! If I'm right about this and Google has let a SEO company get to the top by blatantly spamming their way then it changes everything as far as I can see!

[Nick_W]

What does it change?
Been like that for ages....

Nick

[gingerbreadman]

Report them and forget about it.

[Tony_Perry]

Nick_W
Guess you are right. But when SEO companies start spamming their own sites, and get away with it then everyone else is going to copy.

[creative craig]

everyone else still has a choice to make though!

[cornwall]

As they say, there is a choice. If you choose to spam, then there is a chance that you will be penalised.

In those circumstances, the advice is to forget the penalised URL and start with a new one

How many of us really want to do that?

[heini]

Tony, as said above: if you feel the need to report please do so at Google.

[ciml]

Whether an individual site is suitable for inclusion in Google or not is up to them, and how they interpret their guidelines [google.com].

[Marcia]

Moderator note:

In accordance with the provisions of the Google Forum Charter [webmasterworld.com], and in view of the heavy volume of posting in this forum, as a courtesy to our members so they won't have to leaf through multiple threads on the same topic, the three spam threads posted this morning have been combined.