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Link to a PR0

Risk of link a PR0?!

         

jensa

10:25 pm on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I have a site with a PR6, probably a 7 within some month. I have great links, but ONE of them are right now a PR0.

Question 1: Can it be because it has many dead links?
Question 2: Do I risk to get a lower PR or even a PR0 myself now?

Of course it is easy to just remove the link, but I am just curious.

Take care!

Jensa

korkus2000

11:09 pm on Mar 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Did it use to have a high PR? I am still not sure you catch PR0 from what I have seen. Usually it takes lots of links to a bad neighbor hood to hurt. Did you have a link to it since the beginning of January? Is the linking page high enough in PR and not overloaded by links to boost it from a 0?

RoosterTail

4:26 am on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've always been told that the links you provide out to your sites is what matters most. Having said that though, if it is a relevant resource and should be found usable to your visitors - then who cares about how Google reacts to one link?

toddb

4:31 am on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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After just reading the title I thought "drop the link". They are not giving you a boost with the link back and since the site has been around for a bit and if it has some good stuff it should be over a PR 0 so I would be fearful of linking to a penalised site. They would have to be very useful or generating lots of traffic for me to keep that link up.

Tony_Perry

10:03 am on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree with todb, if they have a zero and it's been like that for some time then they are not adding value to anyone, so why link to them?

HenryUK

10:44 am on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why link?

I don't know the sites concerned, but how about this for a reason:

the visitors to the first site would find the site linked to useful and would appreciate the link

call me a crazy fool...

fathom

12:08 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have a site with a PR6, probably a 7 within some month. I have great links, but ONE of them are right now a PR0.

Question 1: Can it be because it has many dead links?

No - although you may want to point this out to the owner.

Question 2: Do I risk to get a lower PR or even a PR0 myself now?

Unlikely, you would have been already dinged and saying right now "my site is PR0 -- I don't know what happened".

Of course it is easy to just remove the link, but I am just curious.

I wouldn't for the following reasons:

1. the PR0 can be temporary (server crash during crawl) - adding even if a penalty page/site, it likely had PageRank before so helping the owner out -- helps you get PageRank back.

2. PageRank isn't everything -- one visitor from that link a month can still be very profitable.

3. Most PR0's are not really PR0 - in you have screen capture that allows increasing the resolution, you will likely find a very small bit of green (PR) remaining -- not enough to visually show on the toolbar, but enough to stop a penalty transfer.

4. Hard to predict the future -- that site after you break your link (to them) may break their link because you're stiffing them (mindset of the owner if you don't tell them why?).

This can be a future PR10 site - but you broke the exchange first and you will unlikely get it back.

Do the right thing - try helping the guy out - it's in your best interest -- in more ways than one.

fathom

Hagstrom

12:40 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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call me a crazy fool...

Okay, you're a crazy fool. Suppose everybody followed your example and added links to their pages - what do you think would happen to the Web?

RoosterTail

2:01 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hagstrom

With all due respect, perhaps you are the crazy fool. The web it about so much more than what Google thinks of you, it's insane. If you cannot identify with that, then perhaps you should take a step back.

Linking to a site that features information that is usable to your targeted visitors is one of the best ways to build a reputation for yourself. Why think about what PR they have? Why think about what repercussions exist?

If everyone thought the way YOU do, then the web would be a messed up place. No one could find what they wanted to know. They'd just end up being caught in this web of high PR sites that have little to no use to them.

rogerd

2:20 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hagstrom, you forgot the <sarcasm> tags... :)

yetanotheruser

2:26 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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RoosterTail - I'm with you! :)

PR is a technique for ranking web pages according to who else links to them. AFAIK it was designed as a way to "bring order to the web" NOT as a way of 'making my page come first cos I know a trick or two'

IMHO the effect your PR has on your position in Google will prove to be inversely proportional to the amount it get's manipulated by webmasters. Quality of results is what is important for an SE.

jensa, for my twopence worth - if the link still has value for your visitors I would keep it..

sorry.. long day ;) need a winge!

edit: Woo hoo! 100 posts! :)

Hagstrom

2:42 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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HenryUK, RoosterTail and rogerd.

My apologies: Yes, that was sarcasm - if it wasn't for links, there wouldn't be a web - right ;)

I'll remember to add Smileys and <sarcasm>-tags in the future. Promise!

RoosterTail

2:51 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hagstrom, my apologies on that. Coffee simply hadn't kicked in, and I sure did miss the sarcasm the first time around. So, you're no longer a crazy fool.

HenryUK

3:01 pm on Mar 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hag

no need for the apology - I was tuned in first time around...

(sarcasm is practically my mother tongue)

Henry