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Ad Blocking Report - 22 billion in lost revenue
Ad-blocking software, once thought to be a relatively small-scale phenomenon, is apparently rapidly going mainstream. According to a new report from Adobe and PageFair — an Irish company founded in 2012 that “measure[s] the cost of adblocking and display[s] alternative non-intrusive advertising to adblockers” — $21.8 billion in global ad revenues have been blocked/lost so far in 2015.
I think this is related to browsing habits. In the case of Adult sites, celebrity/gossip, top 10 lists, etc. I can understand there's a problem there.
10 years ago, this was perfect.
5 years ago, we lost 2% of our revenue to ad blockers.
Today, we lose roughly 50% of our revenue to ad blockers.
How can it possibly be legal for a company (eg, an ad blocker) to say, "I am going to actively hurt your business, unless you agree to give me 30% of the revenue that you would have lost to me"? By definition, that's extortion.
Not any more or less legal than any Search Engine or a scraper/MFA scraping your content and slapping Ads all over your content while you actively allowing "that" search engine or a scraper/MFA do so. Try to think that way. Cost of doing business now days, isn't it?
1. Blocking Ad Blockers
2. Pay Per View or Subscription Paywalls
3. Serverside or Embedded Advertising
4. Sponsored Articles
5. Advertorials
6. Other forms of advertising merged with content
Call me obtuse, but what the heck are you talking about? Adblockers block third party ANYTHING. A link, a valid link, is unaffected.
I just saw a solid comparison of ten (10) very popular destination sites using an Ad Blocker software - the results are EYE OPENING!
[edited by: bill at 5:12 am (utc) on Aug 28, 2015]
BTW as the U.S.A national debt is at $18 trillion and getting worse..( and with the country in hock to the P.R.C which holds all the scrip and whose economy is "sneezing" at the moment ) $18 billion is small change ( and almost a "rounding error" by comparison ) to the U.S.A governments concerns.....( U.S.A governments of any colour ).. <snip> Google and the government ( or any of the candidates, no matter what they might say ) are not going to do anything about this, unless someone discretely gives them a big bag of cash, "or its equivalent in kind"..
Me, I'd call that a failure in your business plan, not theft by your users. Unless you put something in your terms and conditions before they access the site that failure to allow your ads to load constitutes a breach of TOS, you don't have much of a leg to stand on claiming "theft" (your costs are irrelevant to the issue at hand - you chose to incur them, nobody forced you, and there's no obligation on the user to reimburse you for them - unless you make it part of your terms and conditions)
Bottom line is, you can't get pissed off at people for violating what you consider to be the terms and conditions of using your site UNLESS YOU FRICKIN' TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE before they start using your site. And no, it will NOT be obvious to 99.9% of your clientele. So if you're not telling them ahead of time, then STFU about "theft" fer chrissakes.
There's no "implied contract" on a network with eleventy billion different 'stops' on it, so if you want a contract, then you gotta put it out there. And then see what happens to your quality readership.
[edited by: bill at 5:12 am (utc) on Aug 28, 2015]
Bottom line is, you can't get pissed off at people for violating what you consider to be the terms and conditions of using your site UNLESS YOU FRICKIN' TELL THEM WHAT THEY ARE before they start using your site. And no, it will NOT be obvious to 99.9% of your clientele. So if you're not telling them ahead of time, then STFU about "theft" fer chrissakes.
I'm visiting Fortune 500 sites who think that dropping 50+ cookies on me in one browsing session is acceptable.
So are you saying that I'm allowed to go into a shop and take everything I want without paying, then all I have to do is say to the shop owner: "Hey you didn't fricking tell me what your terms and conditions are" and go home? See your analogy is weak and if you're not a lawyer it's kind of arrogant to go stfu on others.
Oh come on. A website owner is not a shop owner. You put your website up on a world wide open network, without a paywall, invite everyone in (in some cases, PAY to bring them in) and then call them thieves if they access your content with an ad blocker installed (when you haven't bothered to tell them that constitutes theft of content (or services))? And expect them to "just know"?
Someone walks in off the street, through the open door, of a store that says it is open to visitors, into a computer store..looks all around ( the lights are on, so it costs the store owner something for electricity, and of course the store owner has to pay rent to be open to visitors, and maybe the store owner paid someone to make a sign on the street that said the store existed at that address )..the person leaves the store with nothing more than they came in with..
Let's be honest, if we *were* up front about ad blockers and told the users ahead of time that they wouldn't be seeing content unless they turned them off, most of them would peel off in a heartbeat, because most of our sites don't hold enough perceived value to overcome that - not yours, and not mine.
I wouldn't mind experimenting one year and asking them to donate fifty cents or a buck and take all the ads off altogether.
And we're a long long way off before all the "good enough" content dries up. Not in my lifetime, maybe in yours.
Then again I'm in the fortunate situation of having some of my sites mandated by certain school/college courses, so they're a captive audience.
Then again I'm in the fortunate situation of having some of my sites mandated by certain school/college courses, so they're a captive audience.
Knew there was something fishy in the commentary. :)
You have a captive audience. :)
Not apples and oranges. You have a captive audience. :)
hahaha. really. my system works! oh, did I almost forget to mention that they are required to whitelist because they fail school if they don't? hahaha
[edited by: trebuchet at 2:01 pm (utc) on Aug 28, 2015]
A big assumption on your part. I'm getting about 22% of visitors redirected to my turn-off-your-adblocker landing page, and about three quarters of those are complying.
Do you really need me to school you on how CPM ads work?