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What a silly silly person you are
Many/most of us in here dislike the domaining business. You making whatever high number of figures in profit has nothing to do with it. It's the morale and principle that's discussed.
Calling someone a silly silly person because he's defending a morally or principally point of view is just sad.
I got to see those 5 star websites you guys are sitting on. Let me know... cough cough... MFA... cough cough...
Why not start with putting a domain in your own profile.
[edited by: Bddmed at 11:36 pm (utc) on Dec. 13, 2008]
Many/most of us in here dislike the domaining business. You making whatever high number of figures in profit has nothing to do with it. It's the morale and principle that's discussed.Calling someone a silly silly person because he's defending a morally or principally point of view is just sad.
LOL morals, we're getting religious now? Buying a domain for XX in 1999, and selling it undeveloped for six figues in 2008, is immoral? I'll send my kids to college on that cardinal sin any day of the week.
Those city geo domains I sold are now in the hands of a multi-million dollar corporation, and currently under development. I suppose this is the part where you tell me you have the financial infrastructure and skill necessary to put them to better use? A charity foundation perhaps?
Get real... you're in a AdSense thread, we're not here to discuss Darfur.
[edited by: BlueLeaf at 11:56 pm (utc) on Dec. 13, 2008]
Many/most of us in here dislike the domaining business. You making whatever high number of figures in profit has nothing to do with it. It's the moral and principle that's discussed
I would have to agree. It's not as if they're making some valuable contribution to society as a whole. Simply cyber squatting.
I would have to agree. It's not as if they're making some valuable contribution to society as a whole. Simply cyber squatting.
Vancouver DOT com is owned and developed by the biggest domainer on the planet, Kevin Ham. You ready to cross compare your development contributions to the web with his?
I'll wait for you to answer...
[edited by: BlueLeaf at 12:02 am (utc) on Dec. 14, 2008]
What a silly silly person you are. I wouldn't even consider myself a "domainer", yet I've made high six figures in profits from speculating on a handful of modest mid sized city geo domains. So enough with the misinformation already... Some people make easy money because they take risks, accept that and move on.You haven't pointed out ANYthing I've been incorrect about that you call "misinformation", so I'm afraid I'll take this as an empty comment.
I have no problem with people making money, but I question whether stopping other people from using resources by "collecting" them, and then holding them for ransom is a meaningful way to make money. I'm funny that way. I like money, but I also value my time. Domaining on a large scale just doesn't sound all that fascinating. But heck. I'm one of the people that developed websites because it was fun, and helped people. The money was an afterthought.
Domaincentric guys like Skip Hoagland have done more for the web than all the critics in this thread multiplied a thousand times over. Shall I hold your hand and walk you through all the websites and technology out there that has been put forth by "domainer profits"?
But, the answer to your question is yes, I'd like to hear because I'm ignorant on the subject, so if you are willing to share that information without my paying you, I'd like to see it here or in another thread.
How profits are used, by the way is irrelevant to the issue.
Some underworld criminals and other organized crime figures contribute great sums to charity, and do lots of good works, using the profits from murder, drugs, prostitution, extortion, etc to contribute to society.
Of course how they MADE those profits is the issue.
So, your comment is really irrelevant unless you want to congratulate all those charitable criminals for their good works. When we as a society start doing that, and getting our values SO much more twisted, I promise, I'll congratulate those wonderful domainers.
I don't expect everyone to realize their culture is so greed-ridden it is collapsing, but sadly if more did, the world wouldn't be reeling economically and headed into an even worse period of tragedy for families, children...
For those old enough...
If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the...
I have no problem with people making money, but I question whether stopping other people from using resources by "collecting" them, and then holding them for ransom is a meaningful way to make money.
Holding domains for ransom? Ok, I've pegged you. What was/is the domain, what was your offer, and what was the owner's asking price? I'm well versed in domain values, and for free I'll take a look at your situation, and hopefully help you get past your grievance.. It's likely you were well out of your depth, but who knows, perhaps the owner was being unreasonable.
What do you think about Milk DOT com, and Purple DOT com, no parking pages, but AMAZING development strategies. You see those asking prices published on the sites themselves? Unrealistic probably eh? Those domains should be confiscated correct, that would make the world a better place? LOL
[edited by: BlueLeaf at 12:19 am (utc) on Dec. 14, 2008]
I'm done wasting my time here. When you make an offer on a domain, be reasonable. If it's highly brandable, receives type-in traffic, expect to actually PAY something for it, you're not getting it for $16, I don't care what the owner is doing with it. Saying money isn't all that matters... yes that's true, but for Pete's sake you're in an AdSense thread trying to arguing that point, and no one is buying it...
Peace out folks...
I'm done wasting my time here. When you make an offer on a domain, be reasonable.I suspect you aren't understanding, or even listening to what's being said.
Personally I've never made a bid for a domain name, and I doubt I ever will. But it figures that you think that people who are concerned about things besides how much money can be earned are suspect, and must, somehow be masking the fact that they have failed at the game they criticize.
It's sad. Just plain sad that you believe others want to play the game you play, but instead, see the game as harmful overall no matter who wins.
I dunno. It would be great if I could type in a domain name, let's say widgets.com, and actually find widgets, or information about widgets, rather than a parked site run by someone with no more going for him or her than the money to have bought the site.
...but since every intelligent and useful variant of widget.com is held for ransom by people who have no ability to develop or offer something back, well, thems' the breaks.
I have no personal stake in the issue. I have the domain names I want, and I've developed them. But of course, how could someone such as myself and others here actually be concerned about something other than themselves?
Here's the secret. It doesn't cost anything to care about something other than one's own profits.
Value, potential and risk. I think they all share the same factors. Where is the logic in condeming one, and not all the other similiar practices?
[edited by: dibbern2 at 4:26 am (utc) on Dec. 14, 2008]
