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Say, for instance, I get 8 Cents on average per. click... does that help anyone to know how they are doing?
[edited by: ArtistMike at 6:41 am (utc) on April 30, 2008]
I'm not advocating either revealing or not revealing site stats of any kind, epc included.
I'm just saying that if the stat is not provided directly by G then I don't think the TOS prohibits publishers from disclosing it.
But, that's just my opinion.
And I don't think I've ever reveal my AdSense income here, except to say that it beats flipping burgers at a fast food joint. Now is that full time, part time, two jobs..... I'm not saying today. :)
Nor does Google provide eCPMx100 or CTRx10 data
With the same logic would you reveal those?
Since EPC isn't provided directly by Google I don't think the "related" statement applies.
It's just a simple division of two data provided by AdSense statistics. And as simple as this math is and Google doesn't provide this data directly doesn't mean that this metric isn't part of the 'Property performance' (IMHO).
HobbsI'm not advocating either revealing or not revealing site stats of any kind, epc included.
I'm just saying that if the stat is not provided directly by G then I don't think the TOS prohibits publishers from disclosing it.
But, that's just my opinion.
The only number that matters is the amount that gets transferred into my account each month. Some stuff I write seems to get me the dreaded 3 cent clicks, which is fine with me. There are also a couple pages that get me clicks over $1. I make a lot more off the 3 cent clicks at the end of the month.
I'm a math and data geek, and one thing that I can guarantee you, is that you need to know when data doesn't matter. And knowing what someone else is getting per click from google is a waste of my time. There is no way that knowing this information will help me.
Well, there's something to be learned from this thread - to take anything that ArtistMike says with a bucketful of salt.
And for the record, my average epc is ... variable.
[edited by: martinibuster at 10:45 pm (utc) on May 1, 2008]
[edit reason] TOS. [/edit]
The possible value of it is to figure out/consider if you've been smartpriced (holy info google doesn't share b/c it's weird).
Google: "Your site may have been smartpriced, but we can't tell you. We realize we make less money when you're smartpriced, but we can't tell you. We know if we did, you'd change your site so it converted better for advertisers, so you'd make more money, and so would we. But... we can't tell you."
I don't see how google would be threatened by disclosure of epc or lose business. Somebody here will discover yahoo offers better rates and jump ship? MSN? lol.
p/g
Other than that, I think that free and open disclosure of data can get you into real trouble. Always remember that they (Google) probably can find you if they have a couple of specific data points.
just pray that Brett NEVER ever thinks about selling WebmasterWorld to Google
If you use Google Toolbar, Google already can put together your IP and which pages you've visited and even which WW threads you've posted in to the accuracy of 1 minute as this is public information, along with your publisher ID if you log in to AdSense.
But Google is big company, and big companies don't engage in small stuff, or do they?
