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Google AdSense Terms and Conditions Changes

February 26, 2008

         

Noel

11:26 pm on Feb 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Is it juts me?

Just now when I logged in I got a new "Google AdSenseTM Online Standard Terms and Conditions" page from AdSense

ArtistMike

11:23 pm on Feb 28, 2008 (gmt 0)



Thank you, ArtistMike! Seems straightforward enough. Is everyone in agreement that this gets us off the hook?
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I doubt that "everyone" will agree with it, but I am using it on a web page on my site. It is linked from a "hub" web page that leads to everything on my web site. If people want to see it, if Google wants to see it, they can find it.

Mike

leadegroot

11:47 pm on Feb 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I read the privacy policy part of the new terms as having 3 parts:
1.
You must have and abide by an appropriate privacy policy

Not too hard - heading 'privacy policy', body based on any of hundreds of privacy policies across the net.

2.

that clearly discloses that third parties may be placing and reading cookies on your users’ browser, or using web beacons to collect information, in the course of ads being served on your website.

OK, a oneliner rephrasing this should cover it

3.

Your privacy policy should also include information about user options for cookie management.

This is the one that gets me - surely, user cookie management is browser dependant. I am no browser expert! I am not qualified to write this section. Could they mean something less technical? I wonder if they just want something like

Most browsers are initially set up to accept cookies, but you can reset your browser to refuse all cookies or to indicate when a cookie is being sent.
found on [google.com...]

I wish they would be clearer. :(

SkyDiveDad

12:47 am on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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If a visitor approached me to place an ad on OUR site, I would bill them at a reasonable rate.

I actually found an issue that hasn't been addressed yet. Mom would be proud!

Has anyone figured a reasonable rate to charge Google for placing a snippet of THEIR "privacy policy " on OUR sites?

SkyDiveDad

12:56 am on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Sorry for the venting above. This is what we use:

Use of "Cookies" or "Web Beacons"
Cookies are small files that a website may place on your hard drive to allow a website to identify you. The use of cookies is a common practice on many website's. For example, if you allow a website to remember your login name or password, the website places a cookie on your computer. Cookies cannot read any other information on your hard drive. We may place cookies on your computer to allow us to identify you. We may use cookies to measure web traffic, to offer you certain services, and to customize your visit. If you do not wish to receive cookies or would like to be notified when a website is placing a cookie on your system, your Internet browser may allow you to do so.

A web beacon is a transparent image file used to monitor your journey around a single website or collection of sites. They are also referred to as web bugs and are commonly used by sites that hire third-party services to monitor traffic. They may be used in association with cookies to understand how visitors interact with the pages and content on the pages of a web site.

We may serve third party advertisements that may also use cookies and web beacons in the course of ads being served on our website, to ascertain how many times you've seen an advertisement. No personally identifiable information you give us is provided to them for cookie or web beacon use, so they cannot personally identify you with that information on our web site.

Browsers can be set to accept or reject cookies or notify you when a cookie is being sent. Privacy software can be used to override web beacons. Taking either of these actions shouldn't cause a problem with our site, should you so choose.

[edited by: SkyDiveDad at 12:58 am (utc) on Feb. 29, 2008]

tim222

2:08 am on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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SkyDiveDad, I like your last two paragraphs. I now have the additional language I need to add to my current privacy policy. Mission completed :) Thanks!

potentialgeek

4:18 am on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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> It would be even better if Google would publish an official version.

Just get one person to email Adsense Support to ask if their version is okay; then the rest of us copy it.

That's all it takes.

Do you really think Google won't reply to this question? What are they going to say?

"Sorry, we don't know if it's correct or not."

lol!

p/g

P.S. Google should have posted a sample privacy policy on its Blog with the announcement. Then we wouldn't be wasting our time discussing it, and they wouldn't be wasting their time answering our emails. Why does Google keep doing stuff going off half-cocked?

ArtistMike

6:24 am on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)



I have emailed Google AdSense support and ask them to look at my "Privacy Policy" page on my site. I will see what they say.

Mike

charlier

2:25 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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" If Google starts using web beacons to track my readers, I'll be saying goodbye to AdSense. "

Google does use 'web beacons' although they may not store tracking information. A web beacon doesn't have to be a 1x1 transparent gif. It is anything that causes a browser to make an http request. So the Adsense code on your page IS a web beacon and of course Google does use that request to get the IP number the requesting browser is at to send the Ad to it and uses the referrer URL to send the Mediabot to the web page the user requested from your site. I presume it could send a cookie in the headers with the ad. but I am not 100% sure what kind of headers are allowed with the reply to src="http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/show_ads.js"
javascript request.

europeforvisitors

3:30 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)



Google should have posted a sample privacy policy on its Blog with the announcement. Then we wouldn't be wasting our time discussing it, and they wouldn't be wasting their time answering our emails. Why does Google keep doing stuff going off half-cocked?

Oh, there would be plenty of discussion here, with publishers complaining that Google was trying to put words in their mouths or dictate text on their sites.

It's true that it would have been nice if Google AdSense had put all their ducks in a row before announcing the new TOS, but there's no need for people to panic. The deadline for agreeing to the new TOS is nearly three months away, and I think we can safely assume that Google will provide guidance before the deadline.

swa66

4:27 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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So GOOG wants a readable plain text privacy policy or a P3P one ?
I've once looked into P3P and it sucks to maintain such a monster.

Living in the EU a privacy policy is pointless, I have laws to abide by (just as Google, and they are finding that out). A useless page more or less won't change anything.

Just waiting for the content I can cut&past as a statement from Google regarding their use of technology to invade privacy.
While at it, please provide a statement for cut&paste on the urchin script just as well.

Are we allowed to put ads on the privacy page ;-)

norton j radstock

4:38 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Would there be a problem over duplicate content with everyone copying and pasting the same privacy policy.......?
;-)

SkyDiveDad

4:38 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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>>.. or dictate text on their sites.

dictation: an authoritative direction or instruction to do something.

You must have and abide by an appropriate privacy policy = dictation
Agree to the terms or be locked out of your account = dictation

They would certainly be correct.

europeforvisitors

5:05 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)



Are we allowed to put ads on the privacy page ;-)

Sounds like a great opportunity. Maybe AdAware, SpyBot, etc. will compete for ad placement on privacy pages, with copy that reads something like "If you don't know what a 'Web beacon' is, you need SpySmacker!"

HuskyPup

5:51 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)



Are we allowed to put ads on the privacy page ;-)

I have since it is a genuine content page and, maybe surprise surprise, the ads are all the theme of my site:-)

And, IMHO, ArtistMike's text nowhere near covers the requirements.

norton j radstock

6:09 pm on Feb 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I see a Google search for "Privacy Policy" brings up a number of ads from people offering to write your privacy policy for you......presumably the next thing will be adverts with "Buy your Privacy Policy on Ebay"
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