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How many of you hit by eCPM are thinking of taking action?

And how long are you going to give it

         

surfgatinho

9:02 pm on Nov 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just wondering how many people who have been affected by the recent drop in eCPM are considering taking action, (i.e. removing G ads) and how long you are going to leave it before doing so.

For me there is no question that I will dump Adsense if revenues do not pick up. Every cent earned from G ads on my sites is testimony to their quality - I therfore take it as a real insult to be offered half what they are worth.

Personally I will leave it until the middle of next week after which I will comment out my ads and start looking for alternative revenue.

Anyway, I'd be intersted to hear if other people are sonsidering taking similar action.

ken_b

5:26 pm on Nov 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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A list of AdSense alternatives with comments would be great.

You can sometimes find stuff like that floating around in the Advertising Sales and Affiliates Forum [webmasterworld.com] here at WW.

For example, there are a few comments about a some other programs in the thread called What are Some Alternatives to AdSense? [webmasterworld.com]

Lame_Wolf

10:37 pm on Nov 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I've already removed over 3000 adverts and 200 referrals and now have a lot less on the sites. My income has climbed a bit compared to October, but nowhere near to what it was prior to that.

ann

11:32 pm on Nov 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

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So far The Google ads are devalueing all our real estate and they keep coming up with new things to ADD to our pages such as the videos, etc to even lower their 'rent' payout. (a page too crowded makes a visiter think, no, they know, that they are only there to be used and look on your pages with loathing and disrespect...paying back by using the back button to leave.

How do I know? Because that's how I feel and react to those kind of sites.

Ann

<edit>
I am not trying to say Google owes me anything. I have been well paid and could buy some big ticket items I would never had been able to sfford before Google.

So, yes, like everyone else I am hoping this thing will turn around for all of us.

surfgatinho

9:53 pm on Nov 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just removed all Google ads from my biggest/most lucrative site. Have replaced some with relevant aff ads

HuskyPup

4:09 am on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)



Just removed Adsense leaderboards from 90% of all pages.

AdLinks remain to see what happens.

Honestly, and I've been married twice, this is worse than either divorce, it's incomprehensible!

At least both my ex's and I get on well together and still do, this is simply an absolute wall of silence...kids' tantrums, nothing more, nothing less...and no I'm not referring to mine! :-))

Google needs some serious grown-up management.

sutrostyle

4:53 am on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Google needs some serious grown-up management.

This is the picture of their AdSense team:

[bp0.blogger.com...]

from

[adsense.blogspot.com...]

I guess the average age is 25?

Raymond

10:12 am on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I wonder who in that picture smart priced me?
Must be that pretty Chinese girl in the middle. :)~~

[edited by: Raymond at 10:13 am (utc) on Nov. 6, 2007]

masterchief

1:44 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Happy Halloween for them, Sad Halloween for us....

loudspeaker

5:31 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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If that's really it, it scares me. A bunch of kids with WAY too much power.

HuskyPup

5:59 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)



WooHoo...I've just had a response from the AdSense team 10 days after I first e-mailed them.

Interestingly in relation to customs channels they say that they are aware of it, their engineers are working on it and they hope to provide the missing data by next week.

Huh? Is this a new problem, the old problem, more missing data, what does this exactly mean, there is a FUBAR and they haven't a clue?

Insofar as earnings are concerned they say that it is not uncommon for earnings to fluctuate slightly...SLIGHTLY!...a 60% drop is slight?.?.?.?

As my best mate used to say, there are two hopes, Bob Hope and no hope:-)

OnlyToday

6:46 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Insofar as earnings are concerned they say that it is not uncommon for earnings to fluctuate slightly...SLIGHTLY!...a 60% drop is slight?.?.?.?

When questioned about the missing money their gaze dropped to the floor and they stammered a bit, "uhhh, money goes missing around here all the time, doesn't it?" When asked to empty their pockets they became hostile and shouted, "you have no right!"

[edited by: OnlyToday at 6:48 pm (utc) on Nov. 6, 2007]

kool002

7:10 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I wished I had YPN ,I would have certainly tried them.

kool002

7:18 pm on Nov 6, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Has any one tried adsdaq?

OnlyToday

4:54 am on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Has any one tried adsdaq?

Yes, I signed up. It's making money, but it's too soon for a comparison. It probably will do better than AdSense on pages that get high traffic but low CTR since they pay per impression.

loudspeaker

6:44 am on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Has any one tried adsdaq?

For those who tried ADSDAQ: do any of you have any issues with AdSense/ADSDAQ integration? Like, missing impressions or anything of the sort?

Broadway

2:43 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I've started switching Adsense space to YPN. I have also placed greater emphasis on Shopping(dot)com ads than before.

Swanny007

6:32 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I signed up for ADSDAQ last night, knocking out AdSense in one of my forums. We'll see how it goes. I'm not in the US so can't sign up for YPN or I'd be all over them right now.

Huntster

8:46 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have to just "take it". I have adsense everywhere, but it is not my main income for my sites. I need to just wait it out and hope.

nondescriptive

9:01 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I signed up for ADSDAQ also, but what's up with the account maintenance stuff. You even see that on large sites now like myspace and yahoo. Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

JS_Harris

9:04 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It's nothing personal, when the "provider" takes too big a cut and another ad "provider" offers much better returns, it's time to switch.

It looks like Google is headed downwards while Yahoo is heading in the opposite direction at this point.

Web_speed

9:39 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)



Adsense is long gone off 95% of my content. Replaced by Fastclick (now called valueclick), CBprosense, Amazon and Bidvertiser. +- Same income minus the monthly mayhem .

The Halloween picture above say a thousand words...

frakilk

9:53 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo are you listening? GET YPN TO EUROPE ALREADY! There are many, many publishers willing to jump aboard. And the number is growing by the day.

tinker_mac

10:46 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Are you allowed ADSDAQ and adsense on the same pages?

OnlyToday

11:20 pm on Nov 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Are you allowed ADSDAQ and adsense on the same pages?

The ADSDAQ ads look nothing like AdSense and could not be mistaken for them. I think that's ok.

And to answer loudspeaker's question above, I am getting about as many valid AdSense clicks as I'd expect on those served through ADSDAQ as replacements for unsold ADSDAQ slots.

I think I need to adjust my bids on ADSDAQ but even so I don't see this as an answer to falling AdSense eCPM, just an alternative. I wouldn't put them on pages where I get a good AdSense CTR.

zjacob

4:37 am on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)



Yahoo are you listening? GET YPN TO EUROPE ALREADY!

I find it confusing to say the least that Y! and MS are going tit-for-tat with Google on maps, index size, free analytics, etc. but don't want to touch what really matters, which is the full extent of Adsense, including offering contextual ads to publishers outside of US.

Huntster

3:12 pm on Nov 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yahoo is all messed up and could even get bought out in the next few years. I'll ride with Google. No one is buying THEM.

Scurramunga

4:54 am on Nov 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I signed up. It's making money, but it's too soon for a comparison

Has anybody anything to add about ADSDAQ? as I am considering this option too.

OnlyToday

7:33 am on Nov 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Has anybody anything to add about ADSDAQ?

I'm sad to say the results were terrible, I've taken their ads down. It's a good concept but has a chicken and egg problem--too few ads, too few publishers. If it were the only game in town I might tough it out but AdSense at its very worst is better.

The jscript replacement worked well.

Content_ed

9:09 am on Nov 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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We cut way back on Adsense after the recent troubles, primarily by dropping our lower eCPM channels. I hadn't been paying close attention to the results due to other work issues, but it turns out that for November, our overall eCPM is now only down about 10%. It's not an apples-to-apples comparison since I haven't done the math to figure out how much of the "recovery" is due to the elimination of the lower performing channels.

The other thing I hadn't been paying careful attention to is that our daily Adsense page views are now running about the same as last year, thanks to an unexplained jump in organic search traffic a little over a week ago. So it's a mixed bag - if the current eCPM and traffic hold up, December will only come in about 10% down in terms of Adsense income, instead of the 30% or so down we saw in October and maybe 22% down for November if the week finishes out OK.

Haven't tried any new ad networks yet on all the advertising free page views we have at this point, maybe 85% of our total, and our widget sales seem to be up a little as a result. I'd be more tempted to try ADSDAQ is they didn't show a $0.80 CPM ask price in their example. We'd have to get 10 times that to even think about it.

Scurramunga

10:36 am on Nov 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm sad to say the results were terrible, I've taken their ads down. It's a good concept but has a chicken and egg problem--too few ads, too few publishers.

OnlyToday,
I'm sorry to hear that you didn't find success with ADSDAQ as it was begining to sound quite promising. In any case, thank you for sharing your experience.

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