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3:03 am on Oct 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hi friends,
as my stats are not updated, i like to whether anyone facing the same problem. becuase my webstats and adsense stats differs, that's why the question?
2:49 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As others are reporting, I too have seen a significant drop in eCPM/earnings (~30%)Since Friday, Oct 19th.

Sorry if I misled you, I meant 30% for the month, not for the last couple days. Yesterday was actually our best day of October, despite the reporting oddities. Came in just a dollar or two below last year's average for October. But I've been busy de-constructing our custom channels all week, trying to make sure that pages that wouldn't need EXACTLY the same ads don't end up in the same custom channel, in case channels are being used in the ad targetting algo.

2:53 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Content_Ed, it wasn't just from your comments, others have reported reductions in eCPM/earnings since late last week. Good to hear some people are up during all of this.
3:47 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Here is our situation:

- For us, custom channels are not reporting correctly. For some sites, I purchase traffic through adwords. I know I am paying for traffic, however, it being reported as no impressions.

- URL channels are ok.

- Our ECPM went down by a third starting on Oct. 21st.

I have emailed Google Adsense.

3:56 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Checked my account and it appears aggregate impressions and clicks are being recorded correctly, but channel impressions and clicks total much lower.

It's as if ad units aren't being recognised as part of a channel. Perhaps it's all linked to this new 'easy editing feature' being introduced?

7:04 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I am growing concerned.
My traffic has only dropped by about 5% but my epm has dropped by about 35-40% over the last few days. Today is by far the worst day so far. I am just praying the stats are slow to update today.
7:07 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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still not fixed... please keep us posted once the issue is solved...
7:57 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Perhaps it's all linked to this new 'easy editing feature' being introduced?

Google denies it. The new feature hasn't been introduced, its rep said a day or two ago. (See other thread for quote.)

We still don't know if Google itself is collecting all the correct data at the 'Plex, but just misreporting it in our control panels, do we?

That's the $64,000 Question. (Who cares if the channels are off as long as the total income doesn't fall?)

It'd be nice of Google to actually make a statement on this subject, wouldn't it, instead of leaving us hanging, wondering if we're losing money every day due to a mistake for which we bear no responsibility?

I hope they fix it faster than Canon fixes its Mark III autofocus problem...

p/g

8:58 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Odd that it has taken this long to resolve, but the aggregate numbers seem to be in the expected range.
11:06 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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finnaly (and i'm not happy about that) it happened to me today, 30% less ecpm :(
11:13 pm on Oct 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

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As of the 3PM Pacific hour I'm starting to see increased channel impressions. Not sure yet if it's back to normal as the channel data historically had a 30 minute (or so lag) for me. Either there may be headway on the issue or my SERPS have undergone a major change.
12:07 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Any relationship between this minor disruption and eCPM or impressions is pure speculation. There's not even a hint to suggest there is any connection, when you consider all the natural reasons that can effect both factors.

Add to that the California disaster (see IncrediBill's thread), the World Series, and other noisy distractions, and you have a whole other set of possibilities.

The usual Google-is-robbing-us conspiracy theories have all been posted before, and as before, are baseless. It's no fun having an income decline, but most of us have been through that before. Sometimes things come back.

12:35 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Add to that the California disaster (see IncrediBill's thread), the World Series, and other noisy distractions, and you have a whole other set of possibilities.

The usual Google-is-robbing-us conspiracy theories have all been posted before, and as before, are baseless.

In general, I think the theories of California fires, World Series games, etc. having a significant impact on AdSense earnings is equally baseless.

The majority of people in California, not to mention the rest of the country and the rest of the world, are continuing on with their lives basically as normal.

FarmBoy

12:37 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think they just fixed it.
12:49 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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>> fixed..

I don't know, my channels are showing a total that is about 1/10 of what the aggregates stat shows.

But maybe the fix just has to roll out across all the publishers over time.

12:50 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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yes... channels appearing again. unfortunately eCPM still screwed... heh
12:52 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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farmboy,
You are right, those other things could be baseless.

My point is more that the total possibilities that might effect imps and ecpm are 'way beyond this reporting snafu.

12:58 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Yes, they're back but not in total for today - but I didn't expect that. Tomorrow should be more telling if they are indeed fixed or if what we're seeing now is just a step in the process.

Now I'm just wishing for a click dump. Today's been pitiful.

1:07 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I suspect that fixing this may have been complicated by the fact that the system has to keep running continuously throughout the process. Certainly, if they somehow broke the software and hosed the channel data it would be easiest to shut everything down, fix the problem, recover any data, and bring it back up. If that happened, though, we'd now be on page 2000 or so in this thread. Instead, they have to do it rather like fixing a jumbo jet engine in the middle of a transatlantic flight.

Their distributed computing system probably adds some additional challenges when they need to propagate software changes.

3:06 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Just found this thread - glad I am not the only one!
4:52 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Doesn't look like they restored past days channel stats though. That really sucks when you're paying employees and writers based on their particular channels' performance.
5:32 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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My channels are still a mess, but Monday was my best day ever and today (Thursday) is up there in the top five. Total impressions seem about right. I don't think this is affecting my earnings.
10:26 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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stats are slowly appearing but now refferal stats are messed
yesterday 8 clicks 3 conversions (ff) = 10c #*$!?
today 0 clicks 1 conversion (ff) = 0c #*$!?
11:41 am on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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all channels back to normal today
12:19 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone else seeing a math problem in the Google AdSense data this morning?

When I manually add up the channels, the eCPM is 50% higher than reported in the aggregate number, and there is a large number of "mystery" impressions attributed to the root domain (20% additional)... but I have no ads without a channel definition.

12:36 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Mine aren't right yet. The aggregate is showing twice the impressions that the channels are showing. Every one of my adblocks has a channel.
1:15 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It's just after 9AM (U.S. e.s.t.) and my stats are still a mess. I'll check again in 24 hours to see if things have improved.

FarmBoy

1:22 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Question for the group:

A couple of times yesterday, if I requested the stats for the entire month of October-to-date, the stats including channels seemed to be current and reporting correctly except for a few channels I have created this week - they were not to be found.

Does anyone think it would be wise to not create new channels while this mess is being corrected in order to avoid the possibility of having to go back and create them again after things settle down?

FarmBoy

1:41 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I wouldn't add any new channels until they get this mess straightened out.

I'm wondering if we might lose some channel data in the process. My aggregate numbers look fine, but channel numbers are way off for today and still for a few days ago. So while the channel list appears complete, a lot of the channel data is missing. Hopefully they'll get the missing data plugged in the proper channels.

1:48 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Mentioned in an adsense help group
Adsense setup Channels edit settings Save channel
brings existing channels back to life, seems to work for us.
2:04 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I'm missing 70-72 hours of channel data, that's almost 10% of the entire month.
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