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Short version:
- Payment went on hold start of august.
- emailed google numerous times. recieved a reply oct 20th 'invalid clicks have been generated and we will review if you continue to get invalid clicks we will suspend your account'. Sent analytics logs to them for help in the investigation.
- Earnings still in my account for August, September and October adding up to nearly 20,000$.
- No reply as of yet.
Server Stats:
500k+ page views day
up to 16k unique ip's per day.
What I've done about it:
I've contacted adsense advisor (I'm ignored), e-mailed adsense-uk, adsense-adclicks, adsense-support... (Ignored) and they just don't seem to care that my business is going down because I'm losing like almost 20k USD in the last months due to 'this invalid clicks' that is being under review forever...
Since July this has just really upset me, made life hard for me, I'm seeing "bankrupt" in my eyes in the next months.
I've tried other sources of income but they just dont work, "or looked great then didnt work out".
Only one thing that keeping me hopefuly this last weeks is I was contacted by a rank 6k alexa site offering to pay money for advertising, we trialed 24 hours at 200$ and now I'm waiting for them to get back to me on a monthly deal if everything worked out the way they hoped.
Now I'm struggling here, upset because I've got too much to live for, and so much to lose if google don't snap up I'm done for.
GP, Goes to cry.
Looks like im going to have to take google to court over the whole ordeal if nothing is done about it.
You seem to have an outreach, perhaps you can create enough of a stink, if you are who you say you are. Hopefully it works out for you man.
[edited by: Yippee at 4:54 am (utc) on Nov. 16, 2006]
Why the review has gone on so long I don't understand, but I don't find it encouraging.
If I were you, I'd reduce the presence of AdSense on my site, if not remove it altogether, and pursue other options, even if not as lucrative.
Good luck!
Bottom line is it's only Google that can help you - we have given you all the advice we can. It's simply between you and them.
Let us know how you get on.
This thread will probably be locked eventually, but I want to remind anyone who is concerned about this to consider reducing their exposure to a lost AdSense account. Diversify, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Minor rant - it's one thing I hope the UK never follows the US in, although sometimes it looks like it's already started. When something goes bad, everyone starts yelling lawyers, which puts everyone on the defensive, and cuts all ties for long term successful business relationships. The old fashioned way was to sort things out by talking about them. This isn't directed at you GP, as I can understand your frustration at not being able to contact anyone about it. But it just annoys me that so many Americans (sorry to generalise) choose to solve problems with lawyers.
Good luck with sorting out this mess.
And google has the last word on what constitutes fraud.
if this happens to you guys you wouldn't complain? c'mon all i did was ever paste the code on my site. if running a large site gets you nowhere, what the hell is adsense for. "lucky people who don't get click frauded"?
Go phone Google, Email them 5 times today, send them a fax go visit them.
You have created several threads on this issue - we gave you advice on how to make money OTHER ways, affiliates, etc etc.
If I was you I would not have AS code on my website is would have CJ affiliates, banners and some other way of making money.
For having such a large site that is loosing a lot of money you spend a lot of your time here posting about the wrongs of google when you should be trying to get on with things.
Earnings still in my account for August, September and October adding up to nearly 20,000$.
Are you categorically stating that AdSense earnings have continued to accrue during October at the same rate as before or is it the balance from, say August/September which is still showing?
Are you still displaying AdSense and you are seeing daily earnings or are you displaying AdSense and seeing no earnings whatsoever?
GP, we have read your story a lot of times. ENOUGH.
I've contacted adsense advisor (I'm ignored)...
Looks like im going to have to take google to court over the whole ordeal
GP,
You still do not get it, threatening in public to take Google to court will diminish any chance you had left if any.
Now get a gip, stop complaining, move on like a the big boy you are, listen to some of the advice above, or stop asking for advice over and over.
Look I'm frustrated you wouldn't understand until this occours to you but I'm a big player in google adsense and to just be kicked out would of told me so.. but this is 'teasing me', not only do i have funds google failed to pay me for, I'm sitting on a fence that wont pay up.
I've tried everything else, valueclick (take 200$ away for no reason even though its cpm ads), clicks0r (poor and non-efficient), big Y (wont accept me as im a UK account holder only), bidvertiser (is a scam they disable your account within days of payments), chitika (not worth it they pay so cheap per click cpm ads would be nice i guess), and blah blah...
My options are few.
PM me if you want to advertise at my site instead of going through 'cut profit advertising partnerships like google with a big company name, automated systems with no real people behind it, that take your money away from you when you really don't expect it being a publisher with them for god damn long time, and earnings probably over 100k with them - suddenly your ruined'.
Earnings still in my account for August, September and October adding up to nearly 20,000$.Are you categorically stating that AdSense earnings have continued to accrue during October at the same rate as before or is it the balance from, say August/September which is still showing?Are you still displaying AdSense and you are seeing daily earnings or are you displaying AdSense and seeing no earnings whatsoever?
Alexa ranks are based on toolbars not some 'real math calculation you can rely upon', however I'm in the top 100k sites on the web in Alexa... infact I'm fairly confident and have been in the top 10-50k websites in my time.. only summer knocked me back up to about 70k... and I'm getting daily ranks of 10k.. or so.
However I don't think these figures mean a thing to me.
I was once wrongly banned from google and got reinstated eventually by repeatedly emailing.
I was at the stage though of going to give them a call and if that failed going in person.
With the money you're talking about i'd definitely think about going down this route.
I van't remember where their office is (apart from in London) but if you can't find the details sticky me and i'll dig up my records.
I've tried everything else, valueclick (take 200$ away for no reason even though its cpm ads), clicks0r (poor and non-efficient), big Y (wont accept me as im a UK account holder only), bidvertiser (is a scam they disable your account within days of payments), chitika (not worth it they pay so cheap per click cpm ads would be nice i guess), and blah blah...
GP, try thinking outside the box. With your traffic you should be able to capitalize on ecommerce. Do you have any ideas on catchy slogans about your site?
With 16,000 uniques a day all you would need is for 15 of them to buy a t-shirt from cafepress to net you @ $200 per day.
Regards.
GP.
I talked to her, she was nice at first, told me their are no adwords or adsense numbers to call, then told me that if i give out my account number to them they'll call me back... so i signed into google adsense to write my account number down and then she repeatingly saying 'Sorry your breaking up, I can't hear you, I can't hear you, Hello, I can't hear you' then put the phone down, I got full signal on my mobile phone.
This is absolutely a scam they have going on, when you tell them your account number they tell you they can't hear you, so then they rudely put the phone down instead of trying to 'listen to you'.
I'm very sad now.
-- that's it im getting a girl I know to call them up and tell them my account number in the next hour... google your now going to fix the problem with me once and for all.
I have a copy of their email also if you'd like to read it and actualy tell me why they bothered even doing what they did.
