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Ok i need table topic for adsense ads?

Can i call them sponored links?

         

illusionist

9:10 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I read somewhere that we cannot call adsense links sponsored links?

illusionist

9:11 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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another thing its placed in link exchange page, so i dont think its a good idea to call them sponsered links, any other names come to mind?

Brett_Tabke

9:11 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why not? That's what they are!

Jenstar

9:21 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, "Sponsored Links" seems to be ok. I would be careful about calling them anything else without checking with Google, if you want to be on the safe side.

The AdSense Team told another WebmasterWorld member to refer to them as "Sponsored Links" rather than anything else. [webmasterworld.com]

illusionist

9:26 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes i agree some sites are putting it as "sponsered links" but i read it google privacy or somwhere that we cant call them that. Also this is my "link exchange" page and calling them sponsered link might not be a bright idea. Any ideas?

illusionist

9:31 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I got this from the google thread....

The TOS specifically says not to label the ads "Sponsors," and yet Google *told* you to label them "Sponsored Links?"

europeforvisitors

9:36 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)



Why call them anything? They're already labeled "Ads by Google," so adding a caption is redundant.

jomaxx

10:09 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Ditto what EFV said.

illusionist

10:16 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i need the table header to to say whats with about its the way the site is made...looks wierd without it. Like "hot stuff" "cool stuff" something....like that.

jomaxx

11:31 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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No, there's virtually nothing Google will let you label them as except (possibly) "Sponsored Links". Calling them "Cool Stuff", for example, is misleading and is a way of encouraging your visitors to click the ads.

illusionist

11:35 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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i named them "the web" hehe... is that ok?

freitasm

11:38 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have mine in a table without any heading - while all other sections in my site have a heading this one is just the table, and the ads background in the same colour.

Better safer than sorry :)

jomaxx

11:40 pm on Jan 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>> i named them "the web" hehe... is that ok?

See Jenstar's post.

AdSenseAdvisor

1:05 am on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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illusionist - I spoke with the AdSense team about this, and the only allowable labels for the ads are:

Sponsored Links
Advertisements
Advertisers

These hold the most accurate representation of your relationship with the ads, the advertisers, and/or Google - they show that neither the advertisers nor Google are actually sponsoring your site. That's why "Sponsors" is a misleading label.

Calling them "Cool Stuff", for example, is misleading and is a way of encouraging your visitors to click the ads.

Jomaxx is spot on with the comment above.

ASA.

yoyo8

2:48 am on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That's why "Sponsors" is a misleading label.

I don't see how 'Sponsored Links' is acceptable while 'Sponsors' is not. To me, 'Sponsored Links' implies that those advertisers ARE sponsoring one's site. I have a community-based site with a large amount of repeat visitors and I'm pretty sure if I add that 'Sponsored Links' header my CTR would jump due to users wanting to 'support' the site. I'm holding back adding this because I don't think it's really legitimate. And I think it's a bit bizarre that Adsense allows this.

Does anyone else feel this way, or am I out of my mind?

NeverHome

3:09 am on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Sponsored Links" or "Sponsored Ads" (which, as Brett said, is what they are) carries a much different tone than "Our Sponsors" (which, to me anyway, would indicate that the sponsors are directly supporting the site showcasing the ads).

jomaxx

5:17 am on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Frankly I think Google are just trying to keep it simple because they don't want to engage in endless semantic arguments every time this issue comes up. Plus having a clear, if arbitrary, policy means that they won't end up in the situation where different staff are giving conflicting advice about what text is acceptable and what isn't.

yoyo8

7:16 am on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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which, as Brett said, is what they are

Well, based on Brett's previous posts in this forum, I tend to not put too much faith in what he says.

Plus having a clear, if arbitrary, policy means that they won't end up in the situation where different staff are giving conflicting advice about what text is acceptable and what isn't.

Right, and that's why I feel 'Sponsored Links' should not be acceptable. If I were a typical user who particpated on a particular web site every day, if I see 'Sponsored' anything, I'm going to be definitely more likely to click on an ad to support the site than had that header not been displayed. And this is a disservice to the advertisers. I suppose as a test, to prove my inclination, I could add this header for a day or two and see if CTR jumps.

loanuniverse

12:48 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Guys, I don't see any reason to label them further since they already have a tagline "Ads by Google". If you feel you still have to differentiate use the ones that ASA mentioned in an earlier message, which are:


Sponsored Links
Advertisements
Advertisers

Do not do anything that might be considered against the agreement just because someone recommends it. After all, the person that will suffer the consequences if it is found to be a violation is you.

jomaxx

3:15 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yoyo, why not do the test and tell us what happens? My gut feeling is that the more you single out the AdSense listings as being ads, the more your CTR will drop. Calling them "Sponsored Listings" just gives visitors an excuse to stop reading and move on to the next thing that catches their eye.

(P.S. I'll grant you that it may encourage some people to click ads for the wrong reasons.)

Noel

5:52 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How about "related sites"?

europeforvisitors

7:10 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)



How about "related sites"?

How about just observing Google's TOS? :-)

Threads like this one just go to show why many advertisers are leery of "content ads" and why they need greater control over where their ads run (or don't run).

Brett_Tabke

7:20 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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> Google *told* you to label them "Sponsored Links?"

Ditto. They *are* sponsored links. Anything else would be scamming your visitors and might be against FTC law in the US. (remember when the FTC told the se's to clean up their act? This is part of what they were talking about).

Label them as ads or sponsored links and don't like anyone talk you into anything else.

Ads from our sponsor Google:

loanuniverse

7:23 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Label them as ads or sponsored links and don't like anyone talk you into anything else.

The ads already come labeled by their tagline "Ads by Google". There is no need for this redundancy. If you still feel like you need to double label them, then use one of the three taglines posted by AdsenseAdvisor.

Do not let anyone talk you into anything else.

superpower

8:01 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is this ok?

"We are not allowed to incite you to click on the ads below, so please do not take anything on this page as an incitement for you to click on the clickable ad spots below. Thank you for your support!"

:)

killroy

8:16 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, I supose "Ads by Google" should be alright too, since they already say that ;)

SN

Jenstar

8:31 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is this ok?

No, anything that you put on the page that could potentially draw attention to the ads, is a definite no. Someone else here reported on the same issue previously, and even encouraging people NOT to click unless they are genuinely interested is not permitted. It does draw attention to the ads, even if you are telling them to ignore them ;)

simons

1:17 am on Jan 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Absolutely - we were asked to withdraw 'you may also find the following useful' type text (paraphrased to protect the guilty given current index refresh times!) above the AS box from some 200,000 pages. As you might imagine, we complied instantly.

What I'd like to clarify is whether having NO tagline is within TOS - thoughts?

Jenstar

1:24 am on Jan 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am guessing the majority don't say anything about the ads at all, unless there are a lot of members who just haven't been caught ;)

When surfing myself, I don't notice that many people with any sort of "Sponsored Links" etc on their sites above/under/near the AdSense.

NeverHome

3:52 am on Jan 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I came across a site today that effectively REMOVED the "Ads by Google" by changing their leaderboard code i.e. google_ad_height = 90 to google_ad_height = 75!
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