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A compilation of questions for AdsenseAdvisor

One question per member please!

         

loanuniverse

2:41 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Now that we know that there is a googler on his/her way to join our little corner of WebmasterWorld, I thought that it would be a good idea to compile a list of questions that we might have about the program. While I hesitated before posting this topic out of fear of scaring ASA away due to the amount of questions that might result from this thread, I figured if we show some constraint, the damage might not be irreparable.

I would ask that for starters, you limit your questions to one " the one you consider most important”, and that We honor GoogleGuy’s request to stay away from asking specific questions about your site(s).

Let me start it off by asking:

Is there an ETA for improved reporting options (specifically domain stats)?

Jenstar

2:48 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Let's definitely try to stick to the one question per member, and please avoid site specifics - we don't want to overwhelm AdSenseAdvisor Right off the bat ;) And there is no guarantee he'll/she'll answer them all, if any, so please keep that in mind.

eaden

2:51 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Is there any ETA for Wire payment option?

Also, will November cheques be sent on time? BTW, I'd like to warn you that there is a public holiday coming up called "Christmas" so please be ready ;)

Blue_Fin

2:52 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There are a lot of AdSense publishers and prospective AdSense publishers running scared of violating the AdSense Terms & Conditions and having their accounts disabled.

Could you let us know which infractions result in an immediate termination and which ones result in a warning? Are decisions weighted by the amount of time the publisher has been in the program?

In the case of invalid (or fraudulent) clicks, can there be a procedure put into place to address this with the publisher upon the first red flag, rather than immediate termination with no recourse for the publisher?

Can Google reconsider their position of withholding all unpaid earnings to terminated publishers? It doesn't seem fair that audited but unpaid earnings are withheld since those Google revenues are not returned to the advertiser.

TheNige

3:03 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm with Blu_Fin.

What actually contitutes getting kicked out of the program with no warning? While I run AdSense on a few different sites and to my knowledge don't violate the TOS, I always dread having my account locked or cancelled because a competitor or other person beyond your control generates click fraud on your site.

steve40

3:34 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi and Welcome

As a number of adsense publishers would like to or are already using adwords

What would you think of the following

10% of adsense revenue of all publishers was automatically placed into an adwords account , this would help to grow the programme and would help publishers understand that the money they earn comes from advertisers

steve

AdSenseAdvisor

4:10 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm going to do my best to answer your questions as soon as possible. Generally, I'll be posting in the early evening PST, when I can grab some free time at the end of the day, so you can expect to see me around then.

Thanks all for your patience!

AdSenseAdvisor

whizkiddo

4:11 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can Google reconsider their position of withholding all unpaid earnings to terminated publishers? It doesn't seem fair that audited but unpaid earnings are withheld since those Google revenues are not returned to the advertiser.

Yup me too, what say ASA?

freeflight2

10:38 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi AdsenseAdvisor.

Question about adsense on sites with member contributed content (forums, blogs, etc.):

- site/forum tries to focus on very specific topics (technology, finance, politics, etc.)
- site/forum has moderators who are doing their best to take questionable content down.
- still, some posts (less than 1%) sometimes do contain content which might be considered against the TOS (adult content, 'I hate our president', etc.)

How is google's legal standpoint regarding that issue?

tombola

11:49 am on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A recent thread in this forum is about a person, who's account has been terminated because one of his sites was not compliant with the Adsense TOS (there were no problems with his other sites).

I believe that after reading that, many webmasters who already earn substantial amounts with Adsense will think twice before they will put their Adsense code on another/new site.

To get better reporting and to avoid a complete termination in case of invalid clicks, I would combine the requests of loanuniverse (improved reporting options) and Blue_Fin (procedure put into place to address invalid/fraudulent clicks):

Create an Adsense account per website - not per webmaster

If there are fraudulent clicks on one particular site, you don't have to terminate the Adsense account of that webmaster, you can just cancel that particular website account.

europeforvisitors

12:19 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)



Will Google consider giving advertisers more content-ad options instead of the current "all or nothing" approach? I'd like to see advertisers have the ability to:

- Include or exclude specific domains, and/or...

- Take advantage of an "AdSense Select" option where hand-vetted sites are organized into categories (a la the Tribal Fusion ad network).

The idea would be to give potential advertisers more confidence in AdSense by offering them control over where their ads appear.

jimbeetle

2:30 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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More a matter of curiosity more than anything else: Why is the type size of the skyscraper larger than the other formats? Is it just to fill the allotted space?

Jon_King

2:44 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Will there be a more stringent review process for accepting new publishers including 1) number of pageviews, 2) amount of site content or pages; or other items?

JollyK

4:01 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Mostly my questions have been asked, except this one:

What's up with the "form-letter" responses to emails? Do real people see and respond to those emails, or is it a bot? :-)

The main reason I ask is because there have been times that I've sent an email asking a question about an interpretation of the FAQ or the TOS, quoted the relevant section, pointed out the specific word or words I didn't understand, and received a response saying something like "This is outlined in the TOS."

Then I go back and say, "Yes, I've read and re-read the TOS, but I don't understand if this sentence means blah or whether it means yadda yadda. Can you please tell me which it means?"

Then I get an email response that is identical to the first.

Then I email back and again try to explain what my exact question is.

Then I get an email response that is identical to the first and second.

Generally, when this happens 3 times, I give up. :-)

But it would be nice to know that someone's actually reading and responding, and maybe if you could talk about the company philosophy behind the identical form responses? (I know that's probably asking a bit much, but it's the main issue I have after the stuff about domain reporting and account cancellation.)

JohnKelly

7:19 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For sites getting a unusally large number of PSA/Alt. Ads (mine gets 20-30%), is there any recourse? I believe ad inventory is available, and there don't seem to be any "bad" words to trigger a PSA. Yet they continue to appear.

wgonz

7:26 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi ASA!

From AdSense FAQ: "...additional payment options in the coming months..."
........................................
When will we have direct deposit option?
........................................

Thanks,
Wilmer

dflayfield

7:31 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Are there any plans to allow AdSense proceeds to offset AdWords spending in real time?

I spend thousands a month on AdWords and also receive thousands a month through AdSense. Since I pay my AdWords account as I go but only recieve AdSense payment once a month it would improve cashflow dramatically and allow me to maintain my AdWords campaigns without pausing while waiting for the Google check to show.

Dave

Macro

8:32 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm with Blue_fin. My biggest worry is getting kicked out of Adsense for something someone else has done. And we are not alone. A lot of webmasters are very insecure about this. I do not condone any violation of Adsense TOS. But there is still the risk that the dreaded email will one day arrive. All it takes is for a competitor (or even a not-too-bright visitor) to make a few clicks and a site's biggest source of income could disappear overnight.

ASA, we don't want you to disclose anything that hampers your ability to detect fraud but is there anything you can say to reassure webmasters that they won't be penalised or dropped if they stay strictly within the TOS?

too much information

8:44 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi ASA!

I know that the reports are not real-time, but approximately how often do they update?

Blue_Fin

9:05 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know that the reports are not real-time, but approximately how often do they update?

There have been several topics on this and I can confirm as someone who frequently checks my stats that it's anywhere from every few minutes to up to a few hours.

mcavill

9:33 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Could we have alternate ads per domain, and per layout?

And great to have another googler at WebmasterWorld!

<wow, typing the WebMasterWorld acronym gets converted to WebmasterWorld, you learn something everyday!>

runboard

10:02 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why Google's credo "Don't be evil" appears not really followed with Adsense?

It appears that Adsense lets publishers have as little information about their account as reasonably possible instead of the contrary, which publishers would welcome.

Is it done on purpose? What reasons? Anti fraud?

Is it going to change, especially considering that competition (Quigo) is right around the corner?

We all love Google as a search engine, but Adsense appears to go in the opposite direction of the good-will that made Google's success. Are the decision-makers at Google aware of that perception of the publishers?

jomaxx

10:30 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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mcavill, if I'm not mistaken you can choose to use alternate ads or not, and choose different alternate ads, on any basis you like. Just go through the layout code interface and get the appropriate HTML code.

esllou

10:36 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would like stricter anti-spam sites controls to keep the integrity of the program higher.

I have seen plenty of sites with 3 banners per page, pop adsense banners....banners with 5 content pages and 50 pages of public-domain info cut and pasted in. I would like a LITTLE of the dmoz hand-picked selection process taking place.

I understand the strict fraud policies are to keep the program not only clean but seen to be clean...vital for the integrity of AdWords advertisers too. But some of the sites accepted into adsense leave a lot to be desired.

The problem seems to stem from webmasters being accepted, not sites. Maybe this could change. i would welcome it.

2oddSox

10:41 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What's the record for the amount of times someone has logged into their AdSense account in one day? :)

Do you guys have a sweepstake running each day or something?

2odd...

Visi

11:58 pm on Dec 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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When targetting ads, why can google not bring matches back up through directories to a main index page of that directory? It is not unusual for us to recieve PSA's on a main category page, but have targetted ads in the pages below. This means there are ads to serve in the category, but the main entry pages are not getting ads? Would seem logical that the braoder the category match the easier it would be to taget "some" ads to that page.

Will wait patiently as new adsense advisor orders new reading glasses, gets pass the "what did I get myself into" syndrome, finishes personnaly thanking "googleguy" for volunteering them, and finds time to post:)

bzprod

12:46 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know that I speak for many others when I bring up the PSA situation again. Myself, and many other WW members have lost thousands $$$ due to PSAs. The only explanation that I/we got was "we are working hard to fix it". I don't mean a certain % of PSAs. I am talking about those who have received 100% site wide PSAs. This has been resolved for many of us, but only on the "www.site.com" versions. The "site.com" versions are still showing PSAs. Is there a simple explanation? Thanks.

p.s. Welcome AdsenseAdvisor to this wonderful community!

AdSenseAdvisor

2:04 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Time to roll up my sleeves! I won't be able to get to everyone's questions right away, but let me try to answer some of the main ones. In future, I think I'd prefer to respond to posts in the context of existing threads, rather than as a Q&A session... but I know that these questions have been lingering, so I'm more than happy to share what information I have :)

First of all, I'm afraid that I won't be able to give ETAs on features or changes. I know that detailed reporting and expanded payment options are being anxiously awaited, but I can only confirm what you already know - that they're in the works.

In regards to support emails, there is some language that's available to the support crew for answering common questions, and if they misinterpret your question or miss some of the history of your exchange, it's possible that they'll send you the same information again. It's definitely not encouraged! and they work very hard to get the right information to everybody. I'm sorry that this has happened to you, JollyK.

PSAs are always an issue, and I encourage everybody who is seeing high levels of PSA (or alternate ad) activity on their pages to contact the tech team. They're usually able to resolve the issue at least partially, often completely, and every email that comes in with specific URLs helps the team to teach the system to better access and comprehend the information. So it's definitely worth your time. I don't know the details of the "site.com" vs. "www.site.com" issue that bzprod mentioned, but I'll check with the tech team for more info.

Finally (for now!) in regards to the quality of sites, there is a team of quality specialists who are increasing the monitoring of existing sites. They're reviewing all sites running the AdSense code, and sending warnings to anyone not in compliance with the policies. This is an ongoing effort to weed out those who are abusing the system. As far as advertisers being able to select the sites that they run on, or having a hand-picked "select" network, I would have to check with AdWordsAdvisor to see if he has any information. I'll let you know!

Thanks everybody - I can see that I'm going to have to keep my thinking cap on at all times :)

ASA.

JollyK

2:46 am on Dec 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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(Thanks, ASA! I'll look forward to seeing your future contributions! Now, see, that wasn't so bad! heheh)

JK

Visit Thailand

11:02 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It is great to see we have an AdSenseAdvisor - Welcome and thank you!

I would like to ask only one question and that is I would like to cut the leaderboard which has up to four ads into two parts - one banner for the top of the page and another for the bottom of the page. Is this something that Google is looking at implementing?

The reason I would like to know is because I use the banner so am restricted to just two ads and only one placement if I could use two banners (each with different ads) it would surely increase revenue for Google and myself.

Some of our articles are quite long and I do not want to cut them into different pages. If we have a banner at the top and a banner at the bottom this would encourage people to click after they have read the article.

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