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August 2024 Google Search Observations

         

christianz

1:54 pm on Aug 1, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Traffic drop since yesterday / today. Not sure who is gaining right now - SEO spam or Googlespam (SGE etc).

MayankParmar

4:44 pm on Aug 18, 2024 (gmt 0)

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The famous SEOs are already working hard to create a narrative that websites are recovering, Google is improving, and HCU is no longer a thing. They do it all the time.

Hollywood

6:46 pm on Aug 18, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Google is not a responsible to the public technology organization in any means. I have been doing this since the year 1999, I have a very very good understanding of how they progressed throughout the years (doing this 25 years). I wish the media would inquire about these issues with people like me and others who have been involved for a very long time. There needs to be more competition in the search Market. Any company that can do it right has a chance to make billions, someone needs to step up. Saying prayers, you think someone would get it.

Fluff_Nutz

7:29 pm on Aug 18, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Not only is all of that broken but so too is Google Analytics. Unless its some comping mechanism that they implement to creators. But I just noticed that last week I had a LOT more traffic than normal. Yet, the very next day it dropped back to normal again. This has happened several times now. I don't use the stupid site any more but I do find it very strange. Is it some kind of coping method or is it where I should be right now? I don't see any bot traffic that day. Other sites also read less traffic so its definitely an issue with Analytics. An on-going issue like everything else.
Google never fix, just break and make up excuses.

As for those sites getting their traffic back. Well done but it should never have happened in the first place. Its also unfair for other creators who have yet to get back their traffic. Google are scared because they likely have an audience. Your reputation is already screwed, so the joke is on you.

I do agree that Google needs more competition. Hence my last message. I'm not totally against what is currently going on as long as there is a result in the end of it all. A result that sees competition and a more stable net for all involved. The good sign is that this seems to be happening, the bad though, is that it will likely take a very long time. So why do authorities let company control monopolies like this? Google, Microsoft. So many yet its not until a disaster occurs that any one takes notice. What a world to live in...

ichthyous

9:11 pm on Aug 18, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Skyrocketing traffic today from 9am onward. Search is +34% and direct traffic is +37%. Every part of the world higher. Typically when this happens it crashes again within 12-18 hours or so...let's see.

sk7411

11:18 am on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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19 Aug 2024 03:21 PDT

We're still working on fixing the issue with ranking. Next update will be within 48 hours.


Slow Claps Google , Slow Claps!

Shepherd

12:19 pm on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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We're still working on fixing the issue with ranking. Next update will be within 48 hours.


google Shenanigans, nothing more, nothing less.

WAIT! I found the "broken" code:


# AlgoSour.py

import time
import random

class GoogleMonopolyDetector:
def __init__(self):
self.monopoly_status = False
self.sour_triggered = False

def check_for_monopoly(self):
# Placeholder for actual monopoly detection logic
# In reality, this might involve checking legal rulings, market share, etc.
return True # Assume monopoly status for demonstration purposes

def activate_algosour(self):
print("⚠️ Monopoly detected! Initiating AlgoSour...")

# Introduce random delays in search response times
self.randomize_search_times()

# Introduce random irrelevant results
self.randomize_search_results()

print("AlgoSour activated. Enjoy the sour experience! 🍋")

def randomize_search_times(self):
print("Randomizing search response times...")
delay = random.uniform(0.5, 3.0) # Delays between 0.5 to 3 seconds
time.sleep(delay)
print(f"Search response delayed by {delay:.2f} seconds.")

def randomize_search_results(self):
print("Randomizing search results...")
irrelevant_results = ["Cat videos", "Pizza recipes", "Cute puppies", "Random Wikipedia article"]
for _ in range(3): # Add 3 irrelevant results
result = random.choice(irrelevant_results)
print(f"Inserted irrelevant result: {result}")

def run(self):
self.monopoly_status = self.check_for_monopoly()
if self.monopoly_status and not self.sour_triggered:
self.activate_algosour()
self.sour_triggered = True

# Simulate the execution of AlgoSour in case of a monopoly ruling
if __name__ == "__main__":
detector = GoogleMonopolyDetector()
detector.run()

sk7411

12:41 pm on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@Shepherd

Well said!

sk7411

1:13 pm on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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It's funny how the well-known SEOs are celebrating by posting their celebration screenshots everywhere, yet there's not a single site showing an alternate trend in them.

universenet

1:47 pm on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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class GoogleMonopolyDetector:
def __init__(self):
self.monopoly_status = False
self.sour_triggered = False

Shepherd
I think that google is not far from source of that code,
but you should be carefull,
now google can take this code and using every day
you just give them idea
But even if using code like this search results wll not be worse

EditorialGuy

2:50 pm on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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It's funny how the well-known SEOs are celebrating by posting their celebration screenshots everywhere, yet there's not a single site showing an alternate trend in them.

Lily Ray wrote on X (as reported by RustyBrick):

"And just to be clear, many HCU-affected sites appear to be down even more in the past 2 days.

"I hope it's very clear that just because some sites can/will recover, not all will."

Glenn Gabe wrote on X:

"There are about 30-35 in my list of 380+ that have surged with this core update so far." [Which is another way of saying "Fewer than 10 percent in my list of 380+ have surged with this core update so far."]

Given their statements, I wouldn't say that either Lily Ray or Glenn Gabe is "celebrating" or ignoring reality. (I can't comment on "well-known SEOs" who haven't been identified, but Lily Ray and Glenn Gabe certainly quality as "well-known SEOs.")

Side note: It stands to reason that some sites will win, some will lose, and some will see no changes in the current update. Certain categories of sites (AI-generated, for example, or "pure play" affiliate sites) have long been discouraged by Google and may have finally been caught in Google's net. Over-optimized sites (e.g., MFA or "Made for AdSense" sites based entirely on keyword research) may also be in Google's cross-hairs because they were "built for search engines, not for users." Unfortunately, with most forums and blog comments being posted anonymously, it's hard to know what kinds of sites are hurting, gaining, or doing about the same as usual.

oldog

3:17 pm on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Full Recovery for one of my websites (actually the only one that had a punch up the hooter since September 2023 core update.) I thought it had kicked the bucket for good ...lol...I was wrong ....came back to life like Lazarus .....

ichthyous

5:12 pm on Aug 19, 2024 (gmt 0)

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"There are about 30-35 in my list of 380+ that have surged with this core update so far." [Which is another way of saying "Fewer than 10 percent in my list of 380+ have surged with this core update so far."]


It's too early to say...my site skyrocketed all day yesterday, then plummeted today. USA traffic is -22% at noon and direct traffic is -40%. My top ranking terms skyrocketed for a month, now dropping back in a matter of days. Nothing can be determined yet. All I can say is that inquiries have reverted to their same miserable number as before, and they are all low quality again. For a short time the number and caliber of sales increased and resulted in decent sales. All gone again since before this update.

Treud

2:16 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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In my case, after thre March update i had a surge in traffic but mostly zombies/bot ? The metrics were (what is billed on the hosting company) on the rise but the GA was stable. For months traffic was like this, very little inquiries and orders. Traffic from everywhere in the world and with no converting value unless rising my bandwidth usage bill !

From a few days, seems traffic is lower as expected BUT it’s finally back to countries where i CAN sell ! And received some orders. So let’s see if it’s a real improvement or if it’s a bug in the matrix.

delorean

7:20 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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August 2024 Update is just an affirmation of low-DA HCU-hit are dead. No hope. Goodbye blogging.

Martin Ice Web

8:10 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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seeing a traffic increase of +10% but sales dropped like a stone in water. All traffic is zombie traffic right now. And every time google plays with the algo we are seeing sales shifting from shop to amazon again. google does everything to destroy the rest of trust they have.

Micha

8:29 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@Martin Ice Web I can confirm your observation, it's exactly the same in my store. Even the ranking has increased significantly. However, sales are almost zero and will probably be worse than last month.

Martin Ice Web

9:06 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@Micha, ranking are better, confirmed. And traffic amount is nearly the same withhin a certain time range. So at 12am we have exact the same traffic like the days before. In the afternoon traffic slows down and gets just more bad. Every day we hit the same traffic amount. Even if we "fake" traffic ( not with chrome ) on our own, we hit the same numbers. google must have deeper insight in traffic than we belief.

Micha

9:46 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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@Martin Ice Web
So at 12am we have exact the same traffic like the days before.

I can also confirm this, it is perhaps a minimal difference of 20 users. Even if I think it's illogical, I sometimes believe that Google only allocates a certain number of clicks to a website and once this is reached, the visibility is greatly reduced.

Martin Ice Web

10:31 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I can also confirm this, it is perhaps a minimal difference of 20 users. Even if I think it's illogical, I sometimes believe that Google only allocates a certain number of clicks to a website and once this is reached, the visibility is greatly reduced.


You mean users (single threath - multiple page views) or traffic (overall page views)?

Micha

11:47 am on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Number of visitors, the number of page views differs, but not the total number.

universenet

12:04 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I think that august core update is in pause now to time when they fix Google search, and they did not fix yet

Pjman

12:22 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Just Fixed.

renatovieira

1:57 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed a huge volatility in my main keywords since this morning.

EditorialGuy

2:43 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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No notable changes here. Just the usual shuffling of our top 15 or so pages.

universenet

5:07 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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nothing anything significant from my side for now..

saladtosser

6:37 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Don't see anything my end either just AI overviews added to UK SERPS!

Sissi

8:33 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)



was also suprised when testing my keywords to see AI overview as response
No number one as ranking nothing else
Good luck

universenet

9:06 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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it is possible that august google core rankis just fnished, all wating now is just fake from google, they maybe finished this ....will nothing new be in next few weeks
Google just buying time, and want make hope to peope that it is good search engine for small bussiness
All is fake

[url]https://www.reuters.com/legal/google-face-us-antitrust-trial-over-digital-ads-september-2024-02-05/logy.[/url]

Google want to "be ready" for this in september

EditorialGuy

9:55 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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Google's core updates normally take a month or so to complete. There's nothing new or suspect about that.

universenet

10:16 pm on Aug 20, 2024 (gmt 0)

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I know how long. this take
What I said that will be nothing new, all will stay same
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