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RedBar

8:43 am on Aug 2, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Is everyone on holiday?

BigKat

4:13 pm on Aug 8, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@RedBar

The unique products in question are not fast moving goods. In the other search engines, Amazon immediately follows our products though they are not appropriate for the application and will not work. After Amazon, then Home Depot, Walmart and other bigger name retailers appear who also don't stock suitable alternatives to our products. Google is the opposite and buries our products under these retailers - making our products difficult to be found. We support what we produce/sell, and often will get calls from people saying they bought an item on Amazon, Walmart, etc. that didn't work and want to make sure our products are suitable for them. When these calls come in it's a dead giveaway they did their product research on Google or not at all.

RedBar

7:56 pm on Aug 8, 2022 (gmt 0)

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This evening, from 16.00 UK time, I am seeing movements / improvements in the US SERPs. I have several MIA pages with an earlier today cache time and date ranking in the 40s / 50s along with several other company sites that had also gone MIA which also used to rank on the first pages.

Anyone else seeing movements?

cartoonbabyboy

10:13 pm on Aug 8, 2022 (gmt 0)



Something strange is happening to my site. My Google Analytics is showing an create in traffic since the 6th, but my Search Console shows the same trend as before?

samsseo

10:10 am on Aug 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@RedBar I'm seeing a nice uptick in US organic since yesterday, same time (4pm UK)

Dooku

12:28 pm on Aug 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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This explains a lot of the current issues many of us are seeing now:
[seroundtable.com...]

Many of the serp fluctuation checking services are completely off the charts, obviously due to all the messed up data.

RedBar

2:13 pm on Aug 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@Dooku

Brett already posted this

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ichthyous

3:38 pm on Aug 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I have not seen any impact from outages that I can tell, but traffic is odd these days. USA traffic is starting the day -50%+ and then climbing into positive territory in an upward stairstep pattern all day long. Most USA traffic is arriving later in the day. UK is way off for days now...its' -72% on a weekday today, and finished -33% yesterday. On Sunday it was up 50%. AU and CA were perpetually down for months, now they are both positive every day. So not sure what is up with these very dramatic swings in traffic.

RedBar

6:42 pm on Aug 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@samsseo

What have you seen today? I had reasonable traffic for about 7 hours yesterday then I think the Google "issue" occurred and traffic slowed again but not too bad however at 17.00 today it's picked up again at +500% compared to the previous 10 hours ... No doubt it'll die again at 20.00 !

RedBar

8:14 pm on Aug 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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... No doubt it'll die again at 20.00 !

And it did, my lowest hourly traffic of the day!

javelin

8:41 pm on Aug 9, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I think I may be weird or something... everyone out there is talking about the outage causing massive loss in traffic but for me its just the opposite. Mine exploded with traffic. Obviously a blip but still crazy.

RedBar

12:13 pm on Aug 10, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@javelin

I'm weird too ! Incredibly Tuesday delivered almost exact averages across all sites both global and local. The lowest was at 99% and the highest 101% with my main site at 99.3% and its highest day of the month.

Insofar as organic is concerned normal traffic simply doesn't exist any more but realworld enquiries are still being received. I went for a beer last night at 22.00 and the hotel bistro had been full from the very start of the evening ... mid-week, small market town, cost of living "crisis" ... Does conventional wisdom apply any more?

javelin

9:01 pm on Aug 10, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@Redbar
Does conventional wisdom apply any more?


I think conventional wisdom left the building a long time ago LOL! Furthermore in the world I believe the lunatics now run all the asylums. It certainly is a new world within which we live.

tangor

9:39 pm on Aug 10, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Conventional Wisdom, these days, seems an oxymoron.

RedBar

7:12 pm on Aug 11, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Today global site with 4 hours to go not yet at 50%

UK local site at 100%

At least the weather's nice here :-)

Martin Ice Web

7:59 am on Aug 12, 2022 (gmt 0)

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After some good days google change traffic to rubbish on tuesday. You can exactly see the secaond they switched traffic. Is not that traffic dropped but it is rubbish. We get lots of one hit traffic to our homepage. Maybe it is still googles index problems?!

ichthyous

1:16 pm on Aug 12, 2022 (gmt 0)

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This week was rather weak USA and UK traffic the entire week...yesterday both down exactly 13%. Today it's looking like a big drop is in play...USA is down 64% at 9:15am, UK is -75%. It's early but that is unusually steep for a Friday. I have seen an uptick in actual inquiries this week though.

KaseyM

2:48 pm on Aug 12, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Huge drop over past few days in the US it seems.

Google Discover basically is dominated by a few companies at this point.

mosxu

7:40 pm on Aug 12, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Whatever they mess are the buyers searching and right now we are swimming with zombies…

Think about it there is no specie that acts like this

HereWeGo123

12:18 am on Aug 13, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Our traffic seems to be lower this week vs last few weeks. Yet rankings are steady or seeing increases for some KWs. We are US based. Perhaps, all the breaking constant news plays role?

ichthyous

2:08 pm on Aug 13, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Uk traffic is abysmal this week. Yesterday -33% and today starting at -70%. USA ended up yesterday and is starting off normally today. Anyone else seeing a big drop in UK traffic? I wonder if all the noise about a lengthy recession in the UK is starting to take a toll. The very strong dollar has also killed my international business.

RedBar

8:44 pm on Aug 14, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Saturday's global traffic 50% for me, today so far 66%.

UK local traffic for our pub / hotel / gig site for the week 121%, for Fri / Sat / Sun 140%. Saturday night's band was heaving however today's band playing outside in our garden set-up was phenomenal with a non-stop 6 hours service.

All local pubs and restaurants have reported exceptional business this weekend here. The weather is excellent therefore people are enjoying themselves outside but it is very evident how many locals are NOT away on holidays for various reasons. Recession, possibly, however it feels as though people are being much more "canny" with their overall spending.

I could easily be wrong about everything except the money in the tills tonight :-) THAT is noticeable, CASH has made a huge comeback this year!

Broaster

12:45 am on Aug 15, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Some people think the crazy algorithm rollercoaster will end after November 2022. I have no clue why they are saying this on other comments sections.

My website has been nuked of any traffic, I think it was first hit by CORE WEB VITALS in 2021 because I stopped appearing in Google Discover and Top Stories when that hit, I noticed though Google Adsense is whats causing a lot of websties to fail core web vitals

Why would google adsnese fail google core web vitals, you would think they would fix the coding for that or something I dont get it.

Athedian

12:59 am on Aug 15, 2022 (gmt 0)

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What is this disgusting ranking result since Sat 8/13? Big performance drop in GSC

javelin

10:50 am on Aug 15, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Some people think the crazy algorithm rollercoaster will end after November 2022. I have no clue why they are saying this on other comments sections.

There is no reason whatsoever to make that assumption. Whoever is claiming this hasn't done their homework and are crossing their fingers just hoping. You can see the longterm trend goo has set into motion and that trend is not yet changing but getting more ridiculous.

As for traffic, mine has continued to improve since the fire alarms sounded at their data centers... why? Who knows. I will say that I have not updated nor published new content to this site in over a month now as part of an experiment... and its improving. Go figure.

RedBar

1:41 pm on Aug 15, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Over the weekend I decided to perform the pointless task of checking some keyword phrase rankings in the G.com SERPs just to ascertain whether things had changed / improved for my global site.

The Google Classified Ad System is now so all-pervasive for populat keyword phrases that several times I had difficuty in discerning which was the actual FIRST organic listing, several times it was there however mixed-in amongst all the ads and images. Invariably the second organic result was more noticeable than the first simply because 3rd, 4th, 5th etc followed it.

Here's a couple of questions for real advertisers who operate in very popular sectors with lots of advertising sprayed all over the place for keyphrases:

Do you actually bother about rankings any longer?
Is it easier and less costly to advertise than SEO possibly many products?

RedBar

8:23 am on Aug 16, 2022 (gmt 0)

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For my global site Monday's traffic was looking average from 06.00 until 20.00 UK time and since then it's simply been at half the level it had been. A global site that has only normal traffic for just over half of the day!

I know it's August and it's my second-lowest month of the year but to be -45.6% v August 2021 is ludicrous.

I think I can see the writing on the wall extremely clearly now.

mhansen

8:54 pm on Aug 16, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Just a bit of observation in my part of the web since the May/June core update.

Market: USA, Lead Gen, B2C, 100% inhouse, then we qualify and distribute leads out to our partners.
Website: +/- 300 pages of detailed and very thorough information, with great EAT.
Business: Trademarked business and domain matches, LLC, registered with state, etc.
Stack: WordPress, home grown theme, focused on speed and core vitals. 99-M/100-D CWV scores. CLS was the biggest metric we improved upon, dropping it to 0.
Tracking: Popularity and exposure is tracked primarily through SEMR, GA on the site as well, including the recording of conversions.

Results since Core Update: +70% traffic and conversions for the first 45-60 days, which in our market is roughly 350k visitors per month. (from the 200k or so previously)

Changes since early August 2022: Nothing in terms of our site, but G, being the all-knowing, has now added more widgets to the serps where we gained the most conversions.

All speculation - take from it what you will, or nothing at all. :)

From August 2021 or so through now, I focused on keeping the content as fresh as possible with frequent existing content updates, new images, (all below the fold for load time) etc. We do publish new content fairly regularly, but stopped at +/-300 pages to focus on improving what we have, including many more outbound links to sources, others with authority on the subject matter, etc. We do add 1-2 new pages per month, but that's all for now.

It's my opinion that the updated content, increased speed and CWV metrics being at 99/100, etc - helped considerably. I also placed a bit more relevance on keeping the existing content was updated, the author profile, and EAT through partnerships with industry professionals who review and help with authenticity, thoroughness and authority.

Our user engagement metrics improved with more interlinking, related content, etc. Users however, tend to find the answers on the page they land on and for those who need our service, move to our conversion funnel. Conversions increased right along with the general traffic for the first couple months after the update which caused me to spend more time looking at the serp layout for various keyphrases. Many included more featured snippets up thrugh August 2022, which is always a good visitor for me.

That said, G seems to have learned that these specific phrases and such were bringing us conversions (Thanks to GA conversion tracking) and I began noticing more widgets, local results, occasional map, images, videos, and PAA in the same serps. The featured snippet seems to have gone away for several again and organics are pressed just a few hundred pixels lower on the results screen. This is all desktop mind you, and on mobile, you'd be lucky to find an organic link since they are on page 3 of scrolling.

Just my experience with the core update after +2 months of watching the results.

JesterMagic

12:22 pm on Aug 17, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@mhansen How old is the website and how was the traffic patterns since launch?

JesterMagic

12:29 pm on Aug 17, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I notice in incognito mode on Desktop when I have Google set to query the US (?gl=us) is is now returning results using infinite scroll. If I do not set it to US it will then query Canada where I am located which still uses normal pages.

Anyone else notice this?

Martin Ice Web

8:31 am on Aug 18, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@mhansen,

the problem is, that google will use all the nice content your wrote, the information you give and the work you put into the content against you to their own advantage.
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