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Google Updates and SERP Changes - June 2022

         

RedBar

12:25 pm on Jun 17, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I am still seeing substantial movements in my widget SERPs, substantial equates to several pages for me.

Some pages, all of them big money keywords, are still MIA or so low they'll never see traffic BUT I have also seen some good money keywords returning to the first two pages in the past 48 hours however they have not driven any traffic whatsoever. Not only have I seen my pages returning I am also seeing other non-US business ones.

My new traffic levels are averaging even lower than expected and are now at 50% of just over a year ago.

Much of this I put down to G ads and type of device usage. Mobile users invariably view one page and gone and sometimes it amazes me they ever get to me even when on the first page with the huge volume of ads.

Fortunately my global site still has 50% desktop usage and this is because many trade industry users are desk-based and need lots more information and images than Joe Public does, in general these are my multiple page viewers.

BigKat

1:19 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone seen any improvement?

If anything, it's getting worse. Looking at our sales history from Google traffic, what I'm seeing is current total revenue generated from Google traffic coming close to that of 2015. Our product line, which we manufacture ourselves, is nearly double that of 2015. It's pretty ugly but to be expected when a large number of buyer intent keywords we were ranking for have simply vanished. Who replaced us are the usual suspects (Amazon, Walmart, Home Depot, etc.). Some of the items we produce are so unique that no comparable options exist, yet Google is intent on not even ranking our most unique products and instead ranks irrelevant Amazon category pages, Pinterest, affiliate pages that lead to irrelevant Amazon products, etc.

It would appear these updates are designed to reduce our visibility in organic search so substantially that we will be starved into paying for ads. However, we were already paying for ads and the dramatic fall in sales from these updates prompted us to stop all paid campaigns on Google. We were seeing a significant rise in paid clicks and at the same time a drop in total conversions, producing a negative ROI on those campaigns. Looking at the shopping ad blocks in Google now, we see our Chinese competitor's products being advertised (as they were before) under a variety of brands. We were the only American manufacturer/B2C retailer advertising with shopping campaigns. I believe diversified search results, and consumer product options, definitely take a back seat to Google's greed.

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If anything, it's getting worse.

That's what I am seeing too. Pinterest is definitely back in a big way for me with a minimum 1 double-link per page (2 links) and quite often 2 double-links (4 links) and they are invariably several years old. Home Depot has had a big boost for very thin pages of usually one small image and a brief widget description.

China is my biggest B2B widget player in the USA yet it has almost been wiped out and been replaced by seemingly random and very poor US sites but I am now starting to wonder what the US visitor see who has a cache-full of cookies and Google tracking?

When I check my SERPs I have an ultra clean browser, no cache, history, cookies and I specifically set the search settings to the USA, but what does anyone see in the USA whose browser is full of garbage? I'm pretty confident that it's nothing like I see and if a USA searcher has local content targetted by Google I wonder if I am ever seen .?.?.?

Am I ACTUALLY only #1 in my SERPs for my specific widget searches even though they may be top-selling widgets?

Am I only seeing Google's USA SERPs for ultra clean foreigner browsers and no one else EVER sees these results?

In reality is this what is happening to us all? We're ranking well in the pseudo SERPs that we see but in reality we're being totally fooled?

ichthyous

2:26 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone seen improvement?


I lost approx. 60% of the terms I ranked on after the March 2021 update. The slow decline lasted all through the summer of 2021. It didn't recover until Jan 2022, and climbed slowly back. The problem is that many of the high volume terms never recovered to anywhere close to their previous rank. A few are climbing now but there is just too much loaded on the page now....both desktop and mobile. So even if you're top three again it's not the same traffic as one year ago. In spot #4 you get almost nothing.

- I am seeing that the strong shift in 2021 to how-to articles and listicles being returned for every search seems to be waning. It's more of a mix now, but the same huge ecomm sites now dominate every search. It appears that size has become very important again.

- Since the May 25th update I am seeing a lot of individual product pages bringing in traffic, but not my most important landing pages. Those higher-volume searches are now served with so many ads and widgets that organic results can't be found. This has resulted in big daily loses in traffic to my most important converting pages. It changes every 12-24 hours or so, and it's easy to see. Two days ago my traffic was stunningly low until about 11am, then suddenly surged upward in a stair-step pattern the rest of the day, culminating in a surge at 11pm. Yesterday, traffic started strong and slowly died toward the end of the day. This morning...a massive 60%+ drop in traffic to my home page. Search is down 34%. This will last maybe half the day, or the entire day...then revert again.
- Traffic is definitely being hit harder from English language countries. USA is perpetually lower since the 5/25 update. UK vanishes for a while, and is now strong. Canada and Australia take turns vanishing completely...today both have vanished. I gather that this is just from the widget and ads layouts being tested on the fly.

It would appear these updates are designed to reduce our visibility in organic search so substantially that we will be starved into paying for ads. However, we were already paying for ads and the dramatic fall in sales from these updates prompted us to stop all paid campaigns on Google.


Yes of course that's the goal...many of us have been saying that for years on here. This all really kicked into high gear in 2020. 2021 was very bad after the March update, but 2022 seems to be gloves-off bold faced declaration by Google that organic is going to be strangled to death. They aren't bothering to hide anything anymore. The new norm is huge daily swings, totally unreliable traffic, and lower quality traffic which does not convert.

This isn't coming back ever, Google is determined to kill it in the pursuit of higher revenue. My sales have plunged drastically this year. Almost all of that is due to Google, not world events or a slower economy. This is forcing me to not just revisit my site design and search strategy around the edges, but change the entire business model top to bottom so that I am no longer dependent on organic search. I don't know if it will even be possible.

BigKat

2:53 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Considering there is no communication from Google regarding potential bugs, and the quick update that started a couple days ago reduced our visibility in search further, I'm moving forward with the mindset this will be the way it is. It can't really get much worse since the other search engines are producing more sales than Google. There's really no need for GA4 to be wasting bandwidth/load times if we aren't running ads, so I definitely am pushing to remove that from our site since our own analytics are just fine and used in the reports we generate. Other "data mining" matters were also brought up including removing all API calls to Google and even prohibiting Google owned/managed email addresses from being used to place orders. With that in mind, I'm not the only one within our company that interprets Google's recent updates as a "hostile action."

ichthyous

4:24 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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With that in mind, I'm not the only one within our company that interprets Google's recent updates as a "hostile action."


@BigKat It's not a bug, its been getting worse for years...we were the proverbial frogs in the pot and now the water is at full boil.

Google is maximizing its profit any way it can. There has been speculation that this is actually an act of desperation by a company with an old technology and declining use of search. I see it as the inevitable outcome from the day the company went public. It's capitalism without restraint, which has been allowed to morph into a monopoly. They originated and control the platform and don't have to share anything. Whether that will result in an eventual decline in the company through degraded search results remains to be seen. We will all be out of business or have moved on by then.

With regards to GA - removed it from my site last year entirely. Also removed all Google fonts. My site started getting better scores in CWB. I miss the in depth analytics that GA provided, but as you said, Google is a hostile party now and I don't provide enemies with info about my business.

With regards to Google ads...boy do I wish it were otherwise. I would have spent so much less time and energy on this if Google ads actually worked. But they don't....they bring in tons of questionable traffic, do not honor exclusions, and only bring one hit wonders from mobile that never convert. I set my campaign to -100% bids for mobile it was so bad. Guess what I got? More mobile crap at the price they set. When I complained they said I would have to delete my entire campaign and start from the beginning if I actually wanted to control my ads like that. They also offer refunds for clearly fraudulent clicks and then you never see the refund. Its happened to me 3x now. This is just a mafia...I won't give them my money.

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4:52 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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and only bring one hit wonders from mobile that never convert.

For those who do not know I am a global specialist widget B2B supplier with zero ecommerce sites.

What I experience is that my traffic is 50/50 desktop/mobile with desktop visitors nearly always viewing more than 1 single page whereas mobile users are invariably a single page learn about my widget and disappear. I do not have a problem with this, the more Joe learns and understands about my widgets quite possibly the less garbage he will buy!

Google is maximizing its profit any way it can.

It has to, that is one of its jobs, BUT the issue that many here have, plus Joe P, is the sheer quantity of ads it is throwing at everyone all the time and, I'm fairly sure, this has driven a lot of their advertisers away plus many possible purchasers.

I very rarely use G to search for or buy anything however when I do and G displays the image carousel with pricing at the top of the page I'll scroll / surf along to see if what I want is there at a more favourable price than the site I would normall buy from ... I don't think the carousel has won one of those comparisons!

In general most of us here are conflicted by G's ads display but it has a commercial duty to survive and therein lies the rub, if you / we want a quality ad free search engine then who is going to pay for it and who is going to administer it because Wikipedia will tell you, it costs money, and lots of it.

BigKat

6:02 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@ichthyous
We joined Buy on Google early to give it a try. It wasn't long before we quit selling our lowest priced items this way by excluding Buy on Google in our product feeds. Google ignored our exclusion on one of our cheapest and most unique products. Google claimed there was an artifact in the feed, such as a space or erroneous character. Nonsense - the feed contained no such errors. I made sure this would never happen again by disabling Buy on Google on the campaign level. Needless to say, I don't trust Google and really never have.

@RedBar
In general most of us here are conflicted by G's ads display but it has a commercial duty to survive and therein lies the rub

I'm not sure if Google (Alphabet) can make it with the 1/4+ of a trillion dollars in revenue they reported in 2021. :) I know what you meant though - every business has a duty to maximize profits. In my industry, and likely many others, most consumers get trapped within the walls of a joint Amazon/Google prison. These prison walls are getting taller by the day...

RedBar

7:17 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I totally agree BigKat and the problem is how to bring down those walls since Joe Public, with our help, has managed to build them over the past 20 years and getting Joe to change his cushty life would be a very, very difficult task. MS with all its power and influence hasn't managed to make a dent in G and many Amazon sellers simply have nowhere else to sell their products other than eBay, certainly at the prices some sell at they could not even afford a shop's rent but that's another issue.

Fortunately I live in a prosperous market town with very few empty shops but do you know what has seen the biggest increase in shop take-up in the last 5 years? Men's haidressers, nail bars and chain coffee shops! Arghhh ... All those people at home shopping online all day who then go out for a coffee, not so many years ago it was the complete opposite.

BigKat

8:28 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@RedBar

I don't see the walls coming down. I see a choice of either joining these consumers inside those walls, being subject to Amazon and Google's fraud friendly shipping/return policies, or having a very difficult time reaching consumers if we don't. Thankfully our B2C sales pale in comparison to our B2G and B2B sales so we're not as heavily reliant on Google as others may be. Still, what is occurring is not healthy for "free markets" when so few businesses control which businesses can and can't reach consumers. Adapting to a more controlling sales environment will be critical, which also includes knowing when to cut your losses and run. That's where I feel I'm at with Google.

javelin

9:13 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure if Google (Alphabet) can make it with the 1/4+ of a trillion dollars in revenue they reported in 2021. :) I know what you meant though - every business has a duty to maximize profits. In my industry, and likely many others, most consumers get trapped within the walls of a joint Amazon/Google prison. These prison walls are getting taller by the day...


The interesting part to all of this is in the end Google revenue will decline rather than increase. Inadvertently by attempting to maximize profits they are becoming isolationists to the preferred platforms of choice. The reality is that many small players will go out of business.

Small companies cannot compete in the same pool with those like Amazon. I have seen this before first hand through close acquaintances. For them Amazon handmade and Etsy were the sandboxes of choice. When Google began their shift two things took place.

Amazon and Etsy and others loosened their policies on what products were allowed and a flood of larger corporate widgets came into the sphere. Many products were from overseas as cheaper knockoffs and the vendor had a much higher marketing budget. The home based businesses were wiped out first, then the smaller more corporate businesses began to go.

What is taking place with Google is similar in many ways with how they are now pooling or funneling the traffic with buying intent to compete via said sandboxes. When isolationism forces many dogs to compete for kennel space in the end as there are fewer dogs the revenue will dwindle. Its complete stupidity.

In my opinion Google is dead. There is nothing we can do about it nor anywhere we can presently turn to. Google will get exactly what it wants in the end but it will begin its downfall at the same time. These kinds of policies do not promote growth.

renatovieira

11:39 pm on Jun 29, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Big drop today...

morpheus83

5:56 am on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Close to 20 years in the trade and have seen a variety of devastating updates. My two cents are -
-) If your traffic has dropped there is a possibility to get some of it back but you will never be 100%.
-) Google assigns authority to your website and that directly affects the ranking of all your pages. Authority goes up and so does visibility if it goes down everything goes into the toilet.
-) The silver lining is google is extremely dynamic. As cliched as it may sound work on your content, if your content delivers value the rankings will follow. The days of keyword stuffing are long gone and G is extremely smart now.

Martin Ice Web

9:50 am on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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After having a quiet good week, yesterday something rolled through again.

GWT insists of finding several errors. All pages are fixed a year ago. But they still reported as failed.
It says it cant find some pages that we have submitted with the sitemap. That is false. This pages have never been in sitemap. We donīt know where google gets this pages from but not from us.

In my opinion Google is dead. There is nothing we can do about it nor anywhere we can presently turn to. Google will get exactly what it wants in the end but it will begin its downfall at the same time. These kinds of policies do not promote growth.

I donīt know how old are you but did you watch the youth finding things or getting information? Handy -> google -> search results
They donīt even take the results into question!
google made big efforts to come to this point. Removing trusted sources from serps and showing its own (stolen) answer.
Poeple donīt even know that google get this information from other webpages. They donīt know that webmasters put hours of work into the answer. They only know google is smart.

malkhaldi

10:14 am on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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After having a quiet good week, yesterday something rolled through again.

same happen to me , some of my traffic get back then everything gone yesterday

RedBar

10:20 am on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Handy -> google -> search results

For those maybe wondering Handy = Mobile :-)

MIW - Your other observations regarding blind acceptance of the results is so true and usually the errors are not actually Google's but the sites from where it is scraping its info.

Martin Ice Web

11:19 am on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@redbar :) Handy :) yes its Mobile. I am so used to it

Martin Ice Web

11:29 am on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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usually the errors are not actually Google's but the sites from where it is scraping its info.


can you explain this?

ne0h

11:33 am on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Since the update, I have tried all possible options in the new articles. Even similar way when it used to be published before 25th May.

Nothing worked to be featured in Google News or discover. Seems only the large media houses are preferred. Even those articles featured in discover and news from those media houses have nothing in terms of SEO.

Upon further checking some of the articles, they don't have proper cover image with preferred dimensions, only have like 200 words, that too quotes of someone, entire page is full of Taboola ads, and probably failing in page experience metrics.

Now, I have started doing couple of things for a hope to recover, here are some of them if it helps anyone:

1. Bought a CDN monthly plan to boost page exp (which is in amber due to AdSense hope to make it green)

2. Reduce newsworthy story publishing to one per week. (I was publishing thrice a week).
3. Increase publishing 2 to 3 genuine niche articles daily like tutorial and stuffs. Earlier was only 1 article per day.
4. Stop using proof reading via tool (Grammerly) as much as possible. Because I think, it is probably making Google feel that its AI generated article. I am not a native English speaker, but still it's better to keep the authentic tone as much as possible.
5. Keywords those are down , lost ranking daily - find those pages from semrush and republish (not update) them so that published date gets freshed for search results.this is going to be a daily activity.

So, more hours to fight the Google's greed and to regain/increase authority. Those hours could have been spent on actual research and create so many articles which I know have possibilities.
Lets see what happens in a month or two. This is disappointing. And this can't sustain for a long term.

RedBar

12:14 pm on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@MIW
can you explain this?

Google is a scraper and tries to give the most pertinent / accurate information however if the information is incorrect from where Google is scraping that information then its search result will display this incorrect info. I see this every day within my global industry with companies incorrectly displaying the incorrect country of origin of the raw widget material. This is very prevalent in my industry on US sites simply because they may import a widget from China / India / Italy and quite often they assume that is the raw product origin and say so when it actually is not.

I know this happens in other global widget industries and, to supposedly comply with government regulations / sanctions, it can lead to some embarrassing conflicts and legal action plus it is the supplier's responsibility to ensure that the supply complies with current legal specifications.

RedBar

12:23 pm on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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What happened yesterday at 12.00 UK time?

I have had 24 hours of completely normal traffic every hour with the usual single PV and multiple PVs from all my regular countries with no massive peaks, the way traffic was before this core's shenanigans ... How long wil it last or is G reading this forum to see if anyone notices?

ne0h

1:16 pm on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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And officially I lost around 3k visits per day since the update. And it will not recover since it's almost a month now.

Take a look:

[imgur.com...]

BigKat

1:39 pm on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@javelin

When isolationism forces many dogs to compete for kennel space in the end as there are fewer dogs the revenue will dwindle. Its complete stupidity.

I see things differently. Those in the kennel you speak of are not businesses, but consumers. I see it in my industry where Google ranks a Chinese manufacturer's products that are resold under a half dozen different brands. These brands selling on Amazon push competitors out of view on Google searches allowing Google to limit consumer choice so that their spending ends up at Amazon which in turn returns a portion of that money to Google with massive ad spending. In the oligopoly we are operating in, controlling/directing consumer clicks (Google) and spending (Amazon) is the purchase cycle these market leaders derive their profits from. So long as these players control the consumer, they can do as they please and easily attain profit targets when working together. Small businesses, that want to jump in the kennel, will be chewed up alive unless they have very large margins to use as band-aids.

In my opinion Google is dead. There is nothing we can do about it nor anywhere we can presently turn to. Google will get exactly what it wants in the end but it will begin its downfall at the same time. These kinds of policies do not promote growth.

Google is not struggling financially and logged record revenues in one of the most challenging/difficult years in history (Covid pandemic). Those struggling/dying are B&M stores that sell product along with small businesses that can't afford the extreme costs of participating in the pay to play environment Amazon and Google constructed to control consumers with. What is dead is consumer choice, and I fear there is little we can do when consumers have been herded like cattle and placed in the oligopoly's pasture to graze.

While I hope you are right that Google will get what's coming to them, I fear it will not happen. The policies you speak of definitely do not promote growth, but instead promote more control over consumer clicks, their spending and the ever increasing costs we independent businesses must pay to reach consumers.

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3:58 pm on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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I was going to respond to @javelin, but @BigKat beat me to it. I agree that it's not Google that is dead, they have record revenue quarter after quarter. It's WE that are dead...the businesses that survived and prospered online for years. This has to be seen as a problem for the society in general as these monopolies have literally made it impossible for small business to exist online. Whole swaths of medium and small business will disappear, and good middle class livelihoods with them. It will all concentrate into fewer and fewer hands of large companies that can pay to play. Social media seemed like a bright alternative for small players at first...but it has become 100% pay to play as well.

Yesterday and today traffic is way down, after only one relatively decent day this entire week. This is while my ranking has improved nicely this entire week. According to the trackers I have recovered much of what I lost in 2021...but the traffic is just not there

Once again today, it's traffic from the English language countries that is being hit - USA -32%, UK -40%, AU - 30%, CA - 0 visits. But I got plenty of this today:

China
Thailand
Russian Federation
Venezuela
Jamaica
Uganda
Taiwan
Pakistan
India
Indonesia
The Philippines

RedBar

4:45 pm on Jun 30, 2022 (gmt 0)

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My traffic improvement has continued this afternoon UK time therefore I decided to check my SERPs and firstly I am seeing completely new layouts with images and even more ads, even the results look like ads now for me!

Some of my, and competitors, MIA pages have returned, mostly between positions 20-60 and I am also seeing even more double-linked Pinterest pages ... Whatever G may say this thing certainly is not finished in my widget sector.

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Yesterday was the worst day since panda launched. Todday we are starting with -68%.

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9:19 am on Jul 1, 2022 (gmt 0)

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@Ichthyous - you talk about location traffic a lot... Have you looked at traffic by language at all? E.g. if US location traffic is down, is en-us language also down by a similar percentage? Just asking because we've noticed some discrepancies that make us wonder if there's a bug in GA location tracking * shrug *

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9:55 am on Jul 1, 2022 (gmt 0)

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What are they doing?

I had 30 hours of completely normal traffic from 12.00 UK Wednesday until 18.00 UK Thursday and then the switch was flicked off UNTIL 07.00 UK this morning, Friday.

This traffic pattern is so unnatural surely they realise we know this or are we actually considered as disposable non-entities to simply do as we're told and not question anything?

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I reported earlier that Google is no longer indexing complete pages from major sites. [webmasterworld.com] Well, that's still the case today, and google is not finding the content and, therefore, is not displaying it in the SERPs.

Unless this changes, it's a less-effective search.

Brett_Tabke

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>the same trends they can't all be misinformed

Sure it can. If we have seen nothing else from the politics of the last 10 years, is that if you repeat something often enough, some people start to believe it and other people will make up theories to fill in the gaps.

Nowhere have I seen any credible source talking about Google "traffic throttling" in the form you are talking about.
Show me any case study, or blog post talking about such a phenomena.

ichthyous

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This traffic pattern is so unnatural surely they realise we know this or are we actually considered as disposable non-entities to simply do as we're told and not question anything?


We ARE 'disposable non-entities' to a trillion dollar monopoly. What actual power do we have? Everyone just says "Oh well, it's not like you paid for it to begin with" or "you're just being out-competed now" or "Google is a corporation, it's not there to give away freebies". Have you actually read the comments on articles which have covered this topic? There is very little comprehension of the problem and very little sympathy for online businesses. They don't understand at all that without our sites and our content Google has no product. Perhaps next step will be for Google to manufacture the content itself...just as Amazon is cutting the throats of its vendors by targeting their products and copying them.

@NeoHippy I can clearly see that English language traffic is most affected, as I have been reporting since last year. This is not new, but just getting worse. Traffic from english language countries vanishes on a daily basis, then returns. USA is perpetually low, UK is generally strong but will suddenly plunge 30-50% in one day, AU and CA take turns dropping off a cliff or vanishing entirely...sometimes both on the same day. I don't use GA anymore, removed it from my site.

[edited by: ichthyous at 3:28 pm (utc) on Jul 1, 2022]

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4:53 pm on Jul 1, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Have you actually read the comments on articles which have covered this topic?

Absolutely however trying to get others to discuss this seems almost impossible but it ought to make a great thread if everyone chipped in although just how many have any real interest in this? Realistically it is as important as, if not more important than, this thread.

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Traffic near multi year low and looks like going lower every day. For such pathetic traffic levels I am seeing relatively high bounce rate, which could be explained by overall very poor SERP relevancy, thanks to this completely botched "update".

I see Google is still trying to push out this already failed algo. At some point they should give up and then we may see some improvement.

It is not easy to give up when they have invested so much in this change and it may mean job loss for some of those responsible. So they will try and try and try.

BigKat

8:00 pm on Jul 1, 2022 (gmt 0)

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This will go down in history as one of the worst weeks for Google traffic/sales I've ever seen. I have nothing good to report. Despite some flux in the SERPS this week, we've seen no improvement in conversions. Keywords that searchers would use to find our products have vanished and not returned. On that note, have a great weekend everyone and a great 4th of July to those in the USA.

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8:15 pm on Jul 1, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Nowhere have I seen any credible source talking about Google "traffic throttling" in the form you are talking about.
Show me any case study, or blog post talking about such a phenomena.

Part of the problem in being able to "prove" this has less to do with conspiracy issues and more to do with compiling enough data. Using just a few data sets would not be compelling. This would require many people volunteering their data for a real case study but that... 1 hasnt happened and 2 not many people are so willing to surrender that.


Absolutely however trying to get others to discuss this seems almost impossible but it ought to make a great thread if everyone chipped in although just how many have any real interest in this? Realistically it is as important as, if not more important than, this thread.


This may be the best way to approach the issue rather than using a case study. A more open source way of bringing information to the table so many different eyes can see what is taking place. Part of the power G and others hold is the fact we have no real "forum" for the masses to review information on the level that G does daily.

I certainly believe that traffic is throttled. I will go beyond this and say that further information is included and also excluded based upon bias for xyz topics or agendas. This too has been seen. Its no longer a question of if these things happen but rather to what degrees they take place.

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8:31 pm on Jul 1, 2022 (gmt 0)

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-80% here, and hurting.

ichthyous

4:33 am on Jul 2, 2022 (gmt 0)

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Traffic was bad this entire week except for M and Fri, which were average. I checked and traffic is actually higher than this time in 2021. I was feeling the awful effect of the March 2021 update all summer last year but I still managed sales. This year no sales at all... not even inquiries about pricing. Not from anywhere in the world...no USA, Canadian, or UK inquiries. Nothing from Europe or Latin America either. I just went one month with two new email inquires and a couple of phone calls. It's as bad as the worst of 2020 when the pandemic hit and worse than after the 2008 financial crisis. Google has just found a way to kill off the business. Mind you, I keep climbing and climbing in rank this entire year.. the opposite of last summer when my ranking deflated like a balloon.

[edited by: ichthyous at 4:34 am (utc) on Jul 2, 2022]

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9:38 am on Jul 2, 2022 (gmt 0)

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