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Google Core Update May 23 - June 3, 2021

Google *finally* confirms 11 days later.

         

TalkativeEditorial

5:06 pm on May 22, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Yower, SEMRush is freaking out. A few of the other sensors seem to be spiking too.
This is hell. Never know what to do anymore, where to look...or what is actually evening happening.

mzb44

7:21 am on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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'In essence, a search engine’s business model is a numbers game: for any page containing sponsored
links, on average, users will click on one or more of these links a certain percentage of the time. A
search engine can grow its revenues either by increasing this percentage (perhaps by lowering the
quality and relevance of its search results) or by increasing the average number of pages containing
ads that each user views per visit.'


I believe this is what core updates are meant do in part. Shuffle things up so much people are forced to perform multiple searches, increasing the chance of clicking on an ad.

Google is now #1 in search - realistically the only one, actually. The only other search engine is Bing but that search engine is just a side show of a larger corporation that doesn't consider search a priority - and in essence is just copying whatever Google is doing. DDG etc. don't count as they are just a skin of Bing. No one else is actually developing an in-house search engine from scratch.

Google reached a stage it does not need to optimise for user acquisition and user retention anymore (by improving quality for its own sake, even at the expense of revenue targets).

It's in a stage it now can optimise for revenue alone, as there is nowhere else to go for anyone.

It's the ever classic example of when a company becomes the sole provider - or near sole provider - of a good or service on the market and then it starts increasing prices and lowering production costs (i.e quality).

Core updates, people also ask, search features, 2-4 Youtube videos on every serp. All revenue optimisations and not user experience optimisations. Core updates are a major disruption and based on real world testing and experience they can affect perfectly legit and quality sites as well. Even if just 1% of these start doing Google Ads after each core update it means hundreds of millions in extra revenue. Even if just 1% of searchers perform an extra search now because of less relevant serps and click on an ad, it means hundreds of millions in extra revenue.

From a pure business perspective, this absolutely makes sense. Why anyone would believe this would never happen is beyond me. These decisions are made by business executives and not by search engineers. This is pure business 101.

yollo03

7:59 am on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Many years ago (over +10 years) one of the google's internal documents leaked. Their goal at the time was to make people 'stupid' so they will be completely dependent on them. Whether it's calculations, books, information, search etc. Once they get people to rely on them for anything (smart homes?) they will achieve complete dominance (thus higher revenue).

Edit: If this is only a page experience update, all my core web vitals are below the minimum requirements. Whatever they pushed has nothing to do with page experience. Perhaps at a later stage it will be pushed but it is not what is being rolled out now.

[edited by: yollo03 at 8:35 am (utc) on Jun 19, 2021]

christianz

8:18 am on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Core web vitals will have nearly no impact on your ranking, or if they do, it will be minor, you should not notice it.


Core web vitals is just a "hey, look over here" distraction, while they are stealing traffic with top ads, Googlespam, YouTube etc.

For me it seems like the June update (you can merge CWV update into this June update, why separate them?) is still rolling out, as I am seeing the same traffic patterns for 3rd week in a row. These patterns are getting tamer, however, so the update is not going as fast as it was in first week.

ichthyous

1:37 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Another big shakeup this morning, I had a loss of 21 long-tail terms...down 50-70 spots in some cases! Is anyone else seeing this? All of these terms now have the same groups of stock photo and ecomm sites sitting at the top over and over. It could be a temporary shakeup, but soon there will be nothing left of my rankings at all.

I think it's clear that this is not only about domain authority...most of the sites now ranking above mine have a much lower DA than my site does....only perhaps those on page one (and not even some of those) have a higher authority. Something else is at play and I believe it to be a penalty of some sort.

mzb44

2:56 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I think it's clear that this is not only about domain authority...most of the sites now ranking above mine have a much lower DA than my site does....only perhaps those on page one (and not even some of those) have a higher authority. Something else is at play and I believe it to be a penalty of some sort.


Of course it's not just about "domain authority" and especially not about any third tool's party numbers.

It matters what kind of links a site has.

You can have 1,000 links from irrelevant sites and the tools can show you have a DA of 70.
Another site can have 100 links of highly relevant ultra tier links, (think of new york times, etc.), have a DA of 30, but will almost always outrank site 1.

At least when I'm using the term "domain authority" or "high authority domains", personally I'm not referring to any tool scores but big mainstream sites that have hundreds of thousands of links from other extremely authoritative sites. Others on this forum call these "priority publishers". These are the sites that will outrank absolutely everybody on the spot even with extremely shallow and generic content.

JesterMagic

2:58 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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The only real losers here are smaller brands and genuine companies that can't churn out new bs sites and need to rely on their main branded site - these, if they get hit it often means game over.


Overall I agree with what you are saying but the real losers actually ends up being everyone. It means we all have to try and wade through all the crap content to find the gold.

It's sad what the internet has become in order for a business to try and survive. People who generate poor quality site are just in reality ripping people off. Either stealing time from the visitor or money from the advertiser. They are just hustlers.

It's sad Google is purely about profit now and hasn't devised a way to make search work. What they are doing now is not working and the serps are worse now than before.

mzb44

3:19 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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It's sad Google is purely about profit now and hasn't devised a way to make search work.


It's neither sad, not anything of that kind. This is the wrong way of looking at these things.

All companies are about profit and there's nothing wrong with that. But under normal conditions this is checked and tempered by competition. This currently does not apply in Google's case.

What they are doing now is not working and the serps are worse now than before.


Depends what frame of reference you are using.

If you think that Google's objective is to offer high-quality search results at all costs first and then perhaps make some money too, then yes, it's not working.

If you believe Google's objective is to make as much money as possible doing anything possible - including lowering serp quality - up to the point users would start leaving the platform*, then what they are doing is absolutely working.

*It turns out this point is very far away still, as there are kind of no real alternatives for anyone to leave.

It's really this simple.

ichthyous

3:37 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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It matters what kind of links a site has.You can have 1,000 links from irrelevant sites and the tools can show you have a DA of 70. Another site can have 100 links of highly relevant ultra tier links, (think of new york times, etc.), have a DA of 30, but will almost always outrank site 1.


@mzb44 What I am saying is that now you can have 1000 links from highly relevant sites with a very high DA and those links are now being discounted. Most of my links are from sites in the same niche as mine, so highly relevant. The ones that were spammy or scraper links dropped out of my GSC panel earlier this year almost completely...not sure if that because of the disavowal file I uploaded or if Google finally found a way on its own.

What I suspect is going on is that if you have a lot of inbound links from the same domain they are being discounted, or even worse, penalized. I have thousands of Inbound links from about six different sites, all with a much higher DA than mine...they are without a doubt authority sites. Yet from March 15th until now all I have done is bleed my top ranking terms...long-tail, short tail, high volume and low volume...a march downward for months without any sign of stopping. I have never had a penalty in the 18 years I've had this site up. So this is either a major change in how links are being valued or a dialing up of the link spam filters.

saladtosser

3:59 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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>>>So this is either a major change in how links are being valued or a dialing up of the link spam filters.<<<

I've felt this about the last so called core updates, i personally think "core update" is just another name for "penguin update".....esp since they totally haven't mentioned the word "penguin" since they started mentioning "core updates", if they said penguin you would know its about links and they don't want you to know what "core updates" target. Just my opinion after 22 years of this game!

gatormark

4:59 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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You guys pay way much attention to these core updates than probably is necessary.

I’ve been in this game for over 15 years and one thing I know is that it is a losing proposition to focus too much on what Google is doing.

I have had ups and downs over the years. I’ve been impacted negatively in a significant way by core updates and have benefited from other core updates. I am at the point where I don’t spend any time worrying about what Google is doing. That is time taken away from making my websites better.

I focus on a few things now. Number one, I try to make my website as fast as possible. I remove any advertising providers, aside from Adsense, that do not provide super fast ad loading. I try to build as many features as possible into my sites. I promote my sites on social media and by using Google Ads. I never stop advertising.

The biggest hit I ever took in a Google core update was a few months after I added new advertising providers that greatly slowed down my primary website. There was another factor that I think may have impacted it, but it’s merely speculation so I won’t mention it. Anyway, I do think google penalizes you when you use other advertising providers that compromise website speed. This, of course, is an assumption based on observation and I have no numbers to back this up.

In my niche, I am beginning to see some of the old school players moving back up in the website rankings. I don’t know why this is the case, and frankly I don’t care.

Just focus on making your websites better and let the chips fall where they may. Think LONG TERM!

mosxu

6:02 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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The bots are scamming me to death right now.

Wonder where this this hate is coming from?

christianz

6:27 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I added new advertising providers that greatly slowed down my primary website. There was another factor that I think may have impacted it, but it’s merely speculation so I won’t mention it. Anyway, I do think google penalizes you when you use other advertising providers that compromise website speed. This, of course, is an assumption based on observation and I have no numbers to back this up.


I have similar experience, but AdSense just doesn't pay enough, even with the traffic boost that Google may be giving sites that use AdSense. And AdSense itself completely ruins the site speed benchmarks anyway.

I don't understand why ads have to be a factor in site speed at all. In ideal world it should be possible to load them completely in the background. All sticky ads, popups don't need to contribute to site load speed at all (they float above layout), and units that fit inside the layout should be also initially rendered as white boxes with fixed height and loaded in background.

Why ad providers are not implementing it this way is beyond me. Why everything happens in the "main thread"... Perhaps JS needs better parallelism.

yollo03

6:32 pm on Jun 19, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I paid a lot of attention to speed and that didn't help. I did have a peek to my competitors ranking, not my own. Massive shuffling. A website that got hit hard by prior updates climbed all the way to the top again (the core web vitals is pure crap, over 7.5s for LCP but that didnt affect them). This has nothing to do with authority either.

ichthyous

1:57 pm on Jun 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Has anyone else seen big drops to their home page traffic recently? Since May 25th my home page has received 20-50+% less traffic than it used to get, and from June 16th it's dropping to almost nothing. Today home page traffic is down 70%, overall search is down 40%, and direct is down 26% at 11am...almost all of that drop is lower USA traffic. This is on a day where I gained back 14 top ten terms after losing 21 yesterday...there is a much weaker correlation between ranking and traffic these days.

RedBar

3:09 pm on Jun 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Extremely low traffic to global site today, Sunday ... Father's Day effect?

golderberger

3:49 pm on Jun 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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same here, every weekend looks that way since last month

MayankParmar

4:48 pm on Jun 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Found a network of sites operating on expired domains.

One domain has over 10M views, another has 6M and another 1.6M, according to Semrush. These sites had less than 100K traffic before May.

They're ranking on the first page of Google for different topics: Games for Android, Windows, education, health, employment. Their COVID-related article comparing vaccines has outranked BBC and it's written by "admin".

These sites are using simple WordPress themes and they're also doing keyword stuffing

But content is the king, right?

RedBar

5:41 pm on Jun 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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using simple WordPress themes

I do realise that WP is the most used template however G has been obsessed for years with ranking WP highly, I've never understood why?

golderberger

7:12 pm on Jun 20, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I do realise that WP is the most used template however G has been obsessed for years with ranking WP highly, I've never understood why?


probably because they want everything standardized and wp is some sort of standard

KaseyM

12:05 am on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Really struggling to know what's going on. It doesn't help I think analytics real time is/was delayed?

Search results are a bit of a mess though.

ichthyous

12:29 am on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Traffic to my home page is 70% lower this weekend. Some of my other landing pages which were down for weeks fared much better this weekend. I can only consider such a massive drop in home page traffic to be some sort of penalty in action as I have never seen these kinds of low levels in 18 years. I doubt highly its because of father's day.

gatormark

2:20 am on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@ichthyous

What is the niche, if you don’t mind me asking? You don’t have to be specific.

ichthyous

2:40 am on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@gatormark The niche would be considered "arts and entertainment"...it's basically a portfolio site with thousands of artworks. There are no prices shown and no ability to purchase on the site, only to inquire.

golderberger

8:38 am on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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another day and almost no traffic, all my pages are green (up to 98%) in terms of performance, this makes no sense at all

yollo03

8:49 am on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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This wasn't a performance update. Whatever they rolled out triggered big movements in my niche. Sites with very poor web vitals and speed climbed up to the first page. There is a reason why they said it will be a slow release, they are rolling other things in the meantime.

KaseyM

9:19 am on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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More movements yesterday into today? Traffic off a cliff!

JesterMagic

1:48 pm on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Experienced lower traffic on Fathers Day as well. In previous years typically traffic is lower on Fathers Day but not as much as it was yesterday.

Could be a Covid thing and people are out celebrating the holiday more since more things are open up in North America now.

Some of my keywords are still bouncing around a bit as well so most likely lower traffic is part of the Google dance and the flurry of large updates we are seeing lately..

Samsam1978

1:53 pm on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I've got a new website now appearing above me again written by foreign people, and also awful foreign sites with terrible English outranking my very long and informative articles.

**********I hope this update is rolled back the quality for the user is abysmal. *************

I have read the guidelines by google and it says if my content is better etc it should rank higher that is simply not what I am seeing.

**********Such a shame we cannot submit our URLs and examples of poor content ranking higher.***********

No transparency whatsoever!

gatormark

2:15 pm on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@Samsam1978

When you talk about “foreign people” you might want to give a little more context to your niche and target audience. Half the people in this group are “foreign” from a USA perspective. I am assuming you from the United States since we are typically the only ones that make those type of statements.

NickMNS

2:18 pm on Jun 21, 2021 (gmt 0)

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This is the strangest update I have ever seen.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
[imgur.com...]

What the graph shows is that from June 2nd my impressions tanked, by 34% (purple line) but clicks remained somewhat steady off less than 6% (blue line). But what is really weird is that average position also tanked (orange line) while CTR rose sharply (green line).

Typically one would expect that when impressions drop, the impression that remain would be those for which the site already had a high rank. Thus, average position should go up with a drop in impressions. And, as average position drops one would expect CTR to drop as well, as the the website would appear further down in the SERPs and be less likely to be clicked.

I really don't know what to make of this, I assume that at some point in the future the average position and CTR values should revert back to normal but will this result from a drop in clicks.

The one positive from this graph is that it appear that the impact from the update was short lived it seems to have lasted from June 2nd to the 12th and the trend appears flat moving forward.
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