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Google Updates and SERP Changes - May 2021

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sk7411

7:44 am on May 1, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Here we go again ,

Something started brewing yesterday.

KaseyM

6:06 pm on May 5, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Discover springing back to life today.

RedBar

8:55 pm on May 5, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I have a noticeable downwards trend of US traffic for my global sites however that's not really a surprise looking at how closed the US SERPs have become to non-US international websites.

UK traffic for UK sites performing normally.

Indian SERPs tending to be dominated by trade directory sites for me.

Trade enquiries from many other countries keep finding us.

Hasn't anyone yet realised just how closed the US has become to trade?

Samsam1978

9:23 pm on May 5, 2021 (gmt 0)

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All I have noticed is news sites dominating the SERPS whatever the subject, read one about fragrance oils with little research. News or large health sites reporting on things other than the health or the news is not good practice or user experience. News sites simply spamming articles for traffic. This did not happen years ago and Google rewarding them with the traffic despite the articles having no substance. Does not make a good internet.

christianz

9:41 pm on May 5, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Google rewarding them with the traffic despite the articles having no substance. Does not make a good internet.


Which is exactly what they want and they have been very successful in killing the WWW over the last 10 years.

The charts are jaw-dropping.

[journals.plos.org...]

KaseyM

10:47 pm on May 5, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Traffic throttled again this afternoon after a really good morning. What is going on.

JasonBlaze

12:10 am on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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One of my Google news sites stopped appearing in top stories after 3rd May. The site has high authority, unique content, quality backlinks, and no errors.

The competitors with copied & bot-generated content are ranking above in top stories. What's going on really?

ecommerceprofit

2:11 am on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Christianz...that was fascinating research. Really cool.


Which is exactly what they want and they have been very successful in killing the WWW over the last 10 years.

The charts are jaw-dropping.

[journals.plos.org...]

ichthyous

2:14 am on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I have a noticeable downwards trend of US traffic for my global sites however that's not really a surprise looking at how closed the US SERPs have become to non-US international websites.


My USA traffic is perpetually down since the Feb 13th and especially after March 15th update and I am located in USA. Why is the USA traffic so throttled while international traffic seems "normal"?...perhaps the USA is the money market for Google ads where the advertisers pay the most? Perhaps the pages USA SERPS are loaded with more crap, so the traffic is siphoned off? All I can say is that Google seems to have a cap on my USA traffic, it never breaks out above the new lower March level.

superclown2

8:44 am on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)



Strange. The SERPs seem much cleaner this morning here in the UK. I haven't seen one of those maddening popups at all. Some slight movement in positions that seemed set in stone as well.

RedBar

9:16 am on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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My USA traffic is now down 25% v many years average however, I have to stress it again, this is not a surprise when I see the US SERPs bias against non-US company websites in my sector.

To be honest the US market for my widgets has been an extremely low profit margin for years and now many wholesalers are demanding even lower prices, this can only mean one thing insofar as I am concerned IF we are to continue to supply, and that is a lower quality product.

This has been on-going for several years therefore I may dump the USA market altogether, I do not need this garbage from people with MBAs who haven't a clue with no realworld product knowledge whatsoever.

renatovieira

12:55 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Another morning with huge drop. This week is quite tense.

ichthyous

1:03 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Starting the day with my home page traffic -80% and USA traffic -60%. Yesterday both down -12%. More importantly, one inquiry this week. This lower USA traffic since March is killing my business.

RedBar

2:14 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld coolpintud

No loss of Indian traffic for either my global or Indian sites ... as yet!.

mzb44

2:26 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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All I have noticed is news sites dominating the SERPS whatever the subject, read one about fragrance oils with little research. News or large health sites reporting on things other than the health or the news is not good practice or user experience. News sites simply spamming articles for traffic. This did not happen years ago and Google rewarding them with the traffic despite the articles having no substance. Does not make a good internet.


Yeah this is very frequently reported here in pretty much every monthly thread.

This started with the core updates and went overdrive after the May and then December 2020 core updates.

Whatever they did with those updates it seems to have included boosting 'authority', resulting in extremely big sites (usually in terms of backlinks) outranking everyone else without even having to try.

Most frequently these happen to be mainstream news sites, likely because it's them that acquire the largest number of backlinks on the whole web. Those sites receive daily hundreds of top-tier backlinks because they report on latest news (it's expected and normal for this to happen).

But you are correct that his did not happen years ago. Those news sites were also very authoritative back then too. So what's going on now? Google gave up on determining relevancy and they decided only authority matters? I don't know. No one outside Google knows.

Seemingly the "problem" (at least from our perspective - Google may think this is just as it should be) is Google is now valuing 'authority' so heavily that if it's high enough it's almost like if everything else gets ignored/overshadowed.

As such, if one of these big mainstream news sites - that command insane link authority - starts writing about any subject it's almost guaranteed it will immediately outrank everyone else. Not really always, but enough times for this phenomenon to be very noticeable in general and causing serious damage to legitimate expert sites that just don't happen to be massively "authoritative" such as the top 10 biggest international news sites.

And finally - because this has been going on for some time now - all these big mainstream news sites are starting to figure this out and are beginning to write (spam) about almost any subject imaginable that has some monetary value. So we've ended up with almost every major news site pushing generic quality affiliate pages, "best X", "X review" etc. pages left and right in any subject that allows this kind of content. Most of the time completely irrelevant to the focus on the respective news site.

The problem of the above is that these news sites are now outranking specialised sites done by genuine experts, simply due to how Google evaluates 'authority' now. Most of these posts are obviously either done by interns or non-expert freelancers and not by actual newspaper staff. The quality is lacklustre at best. Nevertheless, they are outranking everyone because they are hosted on domains with ultra massive 'authority'.

I am unsure if this will change. The May 2020 core update went overboard with this and everyone was convinced they surely must "correct" this as it went too far, and then the December update came and doubled down hard on this even more. So, I am not optimistic this will change. I fear the next core update will crack down on everyone us "regulars" even harder.

Rndm

4:10 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I remember telling people at my former agency that the internet would be like the mall in 10 years. It seems I wasnt that far off. I said this for two reasons. One is because large companies at first held back from jumping on the internet back in the day. The other is that I foresaw a day when they would do what I saw Walmart and Best Buy do to Main Street.

I currently work on industrial B2B sites in the US. Overall I would say that it is business as usual for most of the companies that I work with obvioiusly taking into account the current pandemic where some niches are suffering and others are soaring (neither related to algos).

Samsam1978

6:02 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@mzb44 - this is a fantastic summary of where we really are today, the niche sites which have expert writing pool are falling off the search results due to a lack of authority, you are right, sites that are niche will never achieve the same ranking structure due to the complexity and advancement of the linking structure to news sites.

I suspect, due to the onset of spam that this was a quick fix to deal with that issue but will damage the user experience in the process. It must also result in ultimately Google losing revenue. Assuming AdSense yields a higher profit margin than ADX and those that engage in header bidding are ultimately news sites. Therefore, we can make the assumption that news sites can't yield that much profit for Google, like niche sites. Let's do hope that in time Google will understand that news sites are now taking this advantage and basically spamming with any article going which is ultimately poorly written by interns - without substance.

It will be a sad world if all the search user has to choose from is news site articles on every topic going and all the niche experts are wiped off the internet.

yollo03

6:16 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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If you have no authority you have ZERO chance of earning good ranking under current conditions. You can write the best content and the algos will just ignore you. Its like instagram, no followers, sit down and be quiet. I think they did make some adjustment to it but not enough. I need to double my DA to get good ranking. All my competitors spammed gov sites and google is in love. My DA went down -3 from December core update and that did a substantial damage. They must have adjusted something last weekend so there was some recovery which was brought to a full halt. Just unbelievable.

mzb44

7:43 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I suspect, due to the onset of spam that this was a quick fix to deal with that issue but will damage the user experience in the process.


Yeah, probably. Likely they got tired of the never ending whac-a-mole against spammers and decided to just simply plaster the biggest and most authoritative sites everywhere. Nobody will ever be able to outrank them anyway, so no need to play the endless games with the spammers anymore.

But this resulted in massive collateral damage in the ranks of legit sites that just don't happen to be major international news publications.

It must also result in ultimately Google losing revenue.


I don't know. Q1 2021 Google ad revenues were up an extremely massive 32% (!). This could be partly explained by the downranked legit sites now needing to do Google Ads to get some of their rankings back.

If this is true, then we know that these changes will never be reversed under any circumstance and need to brace ourselves for an even harder crackdown once they do another core update.

I need to double my DA to get good ranking.


Just always keep in mind to use DA/DR etc. as just an indication. Never take it face value. These aren't Google metrics.

Most often than not they do correlate with higher rankings compared to other sites with lower numbers, but not always. It's also easy to fake these numbers.

Generally - while tracking these stats may be useful for some cases - you should never read too much into these numbers shown by third party tools.

renatovieira

9:03 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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The home page of my main site has disappeared from the SERP's. Here We Go Again :-\

yollo03

9:21 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@Renato I read that google will index your page/s but not across all data centers. In some countries you don't exist. I am using ahrefs to see in which parts of the world I don't exist. Prior to December I was pretty much everywhere. Since then I my main presence is in US. [seroundtable.com...]

Samsam1978

9:51 pm on May 6, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@yollo03 how do you do that in ahrefs I have a subscription?

Samsam1978

6:06 am on May 7, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Lack of themes for websites: I just wanted to make another point quickly, I have noticed (as a general user and webmaster) sites that are historically (for example) a niche in something such as dating ranking for pet articles, the "theme" of a site has been lost somewhere e.g. if you're looking for dating advice you don't expect an article on the same website about how to feed your cat.

yollo03

10:19 am on May 7, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@Samsam it shows under organic keywords. It shows the keywords and the distribution per country. All of mine are concentrated in the US, I dont exist for example in UAE.

saladtosser

10:50 am on May 7, 2021 (gmt 0)

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renatovieira + googles been having problems with home pages and removing them from the serps, don't worry it will be back 2morrow. Keeps happing to a load of sites I monitor, not just mine!

renatovieira

2:49 pm on May 7, 2021 (gmt 0)

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@saladtosser @yollo03 - I've been watching these fluctuations on secondary pages for a long time. The home page never happened. Anyway, this morning it seems that indexing has returned.

saladtosser

3:54 pm on May 7, 2021 (gmt 0)

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renatovieira +, good to know your home page is back, def always a worry when you see that happen but I think google def has major problems right now, makes me wonder if they outsource a lot of their work to India because companies that do (like PayPal) are having severe tech problems right now which I expect is down to covid running rampant over there!

samwest

9:29 pm on May 7, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I can now see where Gorg is whacking our traffic, we went from 1700 pages indexed down to 170 pages in the last week. Gotta make more room for "Google stuff" I guess. On purpose or another glitch? In the end, it results in fewer chances to capture income and more opportunities for a company that is already raking in 50 BILLION a quarter. It's obscene.

ichthyous

12:15 am on May 8, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Terrible traffic today...total traffic -18%, USA -26%, home page -36%. Traffic has been trending down all week with no recovery from the March 15th update

Treud

1:17 am on May 8, 2021 (gmt 0)

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Same here, traffic dropped a lot today. They are probably starting to roll-out their Core Vitals update?

Markedd

8:21 am on May 8, 2021 (gmt 0)

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I just found out why my website traffic fell a lot more than before since 29-30 March 2021. Apparently Google decided to remove almost all my Review Snippets (went from 600 to 10). Now I got to figure out what exactly can be done to get it back. Some of you that may have experienced a drop around the same time, it's worth checking out whether you have the same problem.
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