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8:03 am on Apr 29, 2018 (gmt 0)

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I have at the bottom of my homepage a nofollow link that leads to the contact page and another to the discaimer page.

I'm considering whether to insert them in all the pages, according to you I could have benefits seo?

is the nofollow correct?

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5:44 pm on Apr 29, 2018 (gmt 0)

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these two pages also have the noindex metatag and are not included in sitemap.xml
6:49 pm on Apr 29, 2018 (gmt 0)

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I would insert them into all pages just from a user perspective (easier for them to find). I doubt it will have any SEO benefits.

I also would not nofollow the links or noindex the pages. My contact pages contain more than just a form for submitting though.
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Using nofollow on internal links is weird. "Hey, Google, I can't vouch for this other page on my website".

Also note that nofollow does not stop PageRank from flowing away from a page.

So you lose PageRank that would otherwise continue to flow through your website.
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the noindex is because they are two thin pages, the nofollow is not to follow the pages from googlebot and also not to disperse pr.
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The only pages I nofollow for internal links are to pages that are used for posting a comment or for writing a forum post, stuff that shouldn't be indexed by the search engine. Same with noindex. Just remembered, I also nofollow, noindex the printer version of a page as well.
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the nofollow is not to follow the pages from googlebot and also not to disperse pr.

Like I said, you lose as much PageRank to a nofollow link as you do to a normal link, but the PageRank flowing to a nofollow link stops there, i.e. it is completely lost, whereas PageRank flowing through a normal link will continue to spread to any URLs linked from the target page.

So if you have a page with 10 links, 5 of which are nofollow, you don't pass 100% of PageRank to the 5 normal links. That was the idea behind "PageRank sculpting", a technique that was used a decade(!) ago. Instead, you lose 50% of your PageRank flow to the nofollow ones.

I suppose you can still "sculpt" your PageRank in the sense that you control the flow by choosing which links appear on a page, but I wouldn't put much faith in that sort of thing these days. Back in the day I had a little tool that would simulate how PageRank (as described in the original patent) would flow through a website, so that you could determine the PageRank share per URL and adjust your links (within reason) to get a bigger share of PageRank to important pages. I'm not sure it ever worked to my advantage, mostly it was just fun to play with :-)

I looked it up: it was called the Supplemental Results Detector Tool [seo4fun.com].
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My idea has always been to put nofollow to pass more PR to other pages. What you say for me is new but , the only INTERNAL pages that have nofollow and noindex are those two and are only on the homepage.

this is the link structure:

homepage -> contact (nofollow)
contact -> homepage (dofollow)

homepage -> disclaimer (nofollow)
disclaiemr -> homepage (dofollow)


The few EXTERNAL links I have are all nofollow.
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In my case the links are only on the homepage, but a site that has contact and disclaimer links at the bottom of ALL pages is not qualitatively better than a site that has in all the pages at the bottom of the inscription:

Copyright 2018 abc.com. All rights reserved.

could google give a better score with links on all pages?
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the only INTERNAL pages that have nofollow and noindex are those two and are only on the homepage.

Ironically, it's your homepage that has the most PageRank to spread (and lose), because most inbound links and internal pages will point to it. So if you have 10 links on your homepage, and 2 of those (contact & disclaimer) have the nofollow attribute, you lose 20% of the PageRank that would otherwise continue to flow throughout your site and back to the homepage. It used to be that nofollow links were totally ignored in the calculations of PageRank, but that changed some 10 years ago, so... you're living in the past :-)

The few EXTERNAL links I have are all nofollow.

If they're not paid links and you have no reason to distrust those websites, there's no point in using nofollow on them. Be a good neighbor.

In my case the links are only on the homepage, but a site that has contact and disclaimer links at the bottom of ALL pages is not qualitatively better than a site that has in all the pages at the bottom of the inscription:

It is if you want your users to be able to contact you and read your disclaimer. Not everyone enters from, or stays on, the homepage.

Forget the old trick book and focus on providing the best content and user experience.
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Not sure what that article has to do with your case...
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Reminder: “nofollow” doesn’t mean “pretend you haven’t seen this link”. It just means “don’t tell them I sent you”. If you don’t want your contact page crawled at all, put it in a roboted-out directory. This will not keep it from being indexed--but the chances are pretty minute that a Contact page with uncrawled content would ever show up in anyone’s search results, unless you’ve got the world’s most creative linking text. Which, incidentally, you should not do. The Contact page is for humans to, as the name says, contact you; hiding the page behind a clever link--or only linking it from one place on the whole site--is not the way to achieve this.

When it comes to contact, site search, legal stuff and so on, you really do need to say: ### SEO. Use the design and location that is most useful to the most humans.
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I deleted nofollow; but I keep the noindex because they are thin pages that I do not care that are indexed.

As for the inclusion of the two links in all the pages of the site, the google quality raters reports say something about this?
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General Guidelines July 27, 2017

2.5.3 Finding About Us, Contact Information, and Customer Service Information

Many websites are interested in communicating with their users. There are many reasons that users might have for
contacting a website, from reporting problems such as broken pages, to asking for content removal. Many websites offer
multiple ways for users to contact the website: email addresses, phone numbers, physical addresses, web contact forms,
etc. Sometimes, this contact information is even organized by department and provides the names of individuals to
contact.

The types and amount of contact information needed depend on the type of website. Contact information and customer
service information are extremely important for websites that handle money, such as stores, banks, credit card
companies, etc. Users need a way to ask questions or get help when a problem occurs.
For shopping websites, we'll ask you to do some special checks. Look for contact information—including the store’s
policies on payment, exchanges, and returns. Sometimes this information is listed under “customer service.”
Some kinds of websites need fewer details and a smaller amount of contact information for their purpose. For example,
humor websites may not need the level of detailed contact information we would expect from online banking websites.
Occasionally, you may encounter a website with a legitimate reason for anonymity. For example, personal websites may
not include personal contact information such as an individual’s home address or phone number. Similarly, websites with
usergenerated
content may allow the author to identify him/herself with an alias or username only.
To find contact or customer service information for a website, start with the homepage. Look for a “contact us” or
“customer service” link. Explore the website if you cannot find a “contact us” page. Sometimes you will find the contact
information on a “corporate site” link or even on the company’s Facebook page. Be a detective!
Note that different locales may have their own specific standards and requirements for what information should be
available on the website.
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I deleted nofollow; but I keep the noindex because they are thin pages that I do not care that are indexed.


All this hysteria regarding "thin" content is amusing. Your Contact and Policy pages might be small in substance, but they are not THIN pages ... they are essential. Giving in to the "thin pages" paranoia is not appropriate for ALL PAGES that have very little content, but do have VALUE.
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searchengineland.com has the contact page, about us etc. only on the homepage; in the pages of the articles there are not!
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All this hysteria regarding "thin" content is amusing...
I see no "hysteria." I only see concern from someone asking questions and trying to do it right.
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searchengineland.com has the contact page, about us etc. only on the homepage; in the pages of the articles there are not!
WebmasterWorld dot com has Contact Us, About etc. on every page. So there ;)
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from my two pages I removed noindex and nofollow, I saw that all sites seo do that way.

I wanted to create an about us page, at the end I put it on the contact page.

there will be a reason if searchengineland does not insert links in all pages ..
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<begin voice-crying-in-the-wilderness mode>
Think about your human users. One reason for noindexing a page is if you simply don't want it to be an entry page. Would it be useful for someone who had never set foot on your site to find your Contact or Legal page in the course of a Google search, and to go directly to that page?

About Us, sure, maybe, if you've got a fantastically interesting company history filled with wildly fascinating biographies.
</end vcw mode>
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from my two pages I removed noindex and nofollow, I saw that all sites seo do that way.

I wanted to create an about us page, at the end I put it on the contact page.


This is quite reasonable, particularly in a footer section (or header) and the pages are essential to the site, thus not thin content even if they have little verbiage. Sometimes the chase for SEO gets in the way of commonsense.
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in the google quality raters documents it indicates to go looking for information and contacts on the homepage.

it is important that there is information, it is not important that they are on all pages
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analis, please also read this thread: [webmasterworld.com...]

You can remove the 'nofollow' attribute from links to your two pages, but if you have 'noindex' on those pages then you are still wasting PageRank.

This is because Google - for some time now - has stopped following links from 'noindex' pages.

Basically if you 'noindex' a page then you're effectively placing a 'nofollow' attribute on EVERY link on it.
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in the google quality raters documents it indicates to go looking for information and contacts on the homepage.

Are all your users quality raters? Or is it possible that a user might end up on a sub-page and look for contact info there? If so, would you expect them to know they have to visit the homepage to be able to find that information?

Sometimes the chase for SEO gets in the way of commonsense.

(quoting for emphasis)
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I have a content site, sometimes I get a proposal to insert low-level ads from unknown companies; or some users rarely report errors on some page.

In my case the contact page would be sufficient only on the homepage.


The problem is google thinks the same way? Does the google algorithm check if the contact page is present and about us on all pages?
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@analis My way of doing it for last 10 years: [webmasterworld.com ] 4th msg from top. Never had any problems.