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Moving domain, diverting traffic without letting Google know about it

     

rag_gupta

3:46 am on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)



One my site has been hit by Penguin penalty. Without waiting for next Penguin release I want to move my site to another domain. Using 301 for pages could pass the penalty back to the new domain. I've done my best already by disavowing links.

So what is the best way to divert traffic to my site without letting Google know?

I could ask visitors to click on a nofollow link for the moved page. Or I could use Javascript to set the link target instead of using href in <a tag. But Google can figure this out.

Or I can use use a form submit button to be clicked to go the "moved" page.

So what is the best way in this situation?

lucy24

6:42 am on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)

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I could ask visitors to click on a nofollow link for the moved page.

And the googlebot would close its eyes and pretend it never saw the link?

Or I could use Javascript

Major search engines understand javascript just fine.

You could check for UA and/or IP before issuing a server-side redirect. It should work perfectly for, oh, up to three or four days.

rag_gupta

7:01 am on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)



Lucy good idea about checking UA. Excluding Googlebot IP could be risky as it is called cloaking. What about form submit?

Mine is a small site so Googlebot should not be submitting the form to find the redirected url.

I mean Penguin penalty should not pass back to my new domain but only the human visitors.

phranque

8:43 am on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)

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you could pass the URLs through a redirect script and use robots.txt to disallow googlebot from crawling any URLs redirected through that script.

rag_gupta

9:04 am on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)



Phranque superb ! That's the best & simplest.

So the old pages will be redirected to another page named say hiddenredirect.php which does a redirect to the new domain.

And I'd need to add this rule in the Robots.txt:


Disallow : /hiddenredirect.php*

Zivush

12:28 pm on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)




From my experience, you can't hide any published pages and any links between pages from search engines. They know it all.

aakk9999

12:54 pm on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)

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We had a few recent discussions on this subject and reading these threads may also help:

Best Way To Redirect Home Page Without Forwarding Penalty / Penguin
31st August 2013
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4606464.htm [webmasterworld.com]


What is best way to redirect traffic without passing on penalty?
13th Auigust 2013
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4599116.htm [webmasterworld.com]


Domain forwarding instead of 301 redirect to avoid passing penalty
18th June 2012
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4466649.htm [webmasterworld.com]
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itsjustme2

8:42 pm on Jan 27, 2014 (gmt 0)



Is this possible? Can someone walk me through this?

Is your home page the one that has the most bad links (that generated the Penguin penalty)? In theory, until you can remove enough links, if you get lots of direct traffic, you could have your home page serve a 404 response, but still keep the functionality of it for direct traffic landings.

Or you could make a new home page (/home.html) and again 404 your original home page.


I've waited since Mid-December with my disavow request with no change.

As far as I can tell, my site wide penalty is a result of constant spam to the homepage only (the home page is located on a template used literally by tens of thousands of Chinese domains. Every time I look at new links on a backlink checker, new Chinese domains appear. My most used keyword are the Chinese characters to my home page (literally over 30% of total links. It looks as if I can never solve the penalty problem.

I might be able to take a hit to losing all the links to my homepage, because, after 12 years, many of my inner pages built up their own backlink profiles.

as far as I can tell, my only success in three years has been seeing one of my keywords move in the serps before the tumbler version of the same keyword with the title f****yeah[keyword]

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