Google+ Pages... some basic questions

[member22]

Hello,

I have a google + pages ( business page ) and I was wondering a few things :

In terms of points ( we know google gives or is going to give some points and help you rank better based on the number of + 1 or followers you are going to have )

Do I get more points if I add a major brand 1 st in my circle of friends and then they add me ?

or

Is it is better if they add me first ?

Does the major brand get a notification I added them or are notifications only on private pages.

Then, is a brand that has lot of followers going to give me more points than an brand that doesn't have many followers or doesn't it change anything ?

What is the most import a follow or a + 1 to help me rank better ?

Finally, if the follow and + 1 are coming from a brand is it better than if it is coming from a person ?

Thank you,

[netmeg]

Nobody knows all that yet, and "better" is too mushy a term.

What we do know is that social (including Google+) is not that linear - if you do thus and so, then this happens, or this is better than that.

What does seem to work "best" is engagement - i.e. are you actually talking and sharing with the brand, and are they sharing with you?

Personally, if I want to get a brand's attention on social media (any social media) I start talking to them, recommending them, sharing with them, trying to come up with things of my own that they might want to share, until they either tell me to go away, or follow me back.

[nomis5]

Don't even go there. Gs use of G+ and other similar facilities is exploding in their face right now.

Forget it, look for other methods of promoting your website.

[member22]

Netmeg.

Do you mean that in google + i should participate in communities post add them and see if they add me ?

[GifAnimator]

Nobody really knows how being on G+ will effect search rankings. If you have a profile your photo will appear in Google search results if you link to your website. There have been reports that company logos on G+ pages have been appearing as well so it looks like they are experimenting with them.

This may not improve ranking but it does get you noticed and there is evidence that it improves CTR.
If you add someone to your circle they will be notified and they will have the choice to add you back. I would suggest that you complete your page with all relevant information and make several posts. Don’t just post about your website, try to post some interesting comments and add graphics to attract attention. Ask a question so people will interact. Once you have several posts, look at your page and ask yourself, would I want to follow this person, if your answer is yes start looking at other interesting Profiles and pages and adding them. I always look at any new followers pages and so many of them are spammy and just boring, I do not add them back if that is the case.
It has been suggested that Google will start looking at the authority of a website, it could involve many things but a G+ profile that is active and has plenty of high profile followers, shares, +1’s , and general interaction with other users could influence this authority.

I cannot see that G+ is exploding in Google’s face at the moment. Every day I’m getting many new followers and the biggest majority of them seem to be SEO specialists.
You find many communities and intelligent people to help you on G+; you may have been better off asking your question there.

[netmeg]

Do you mean that in google + i should participate in communities post add them and see if they add me ?

If you want to get any traction there, yea.

It's certainly possible to fake social, but you have to be pretty skilled to fake it well (and it's almost as much trouble as doing it for real) So you might as well engage.

[aristotle]

Gs use of G+ and other similar facilities is exploding in their face right now

I'm wondering what this refers to.
There was a story about Google wanting youtube members to join G+ and a lot of people refused, but that wouldn't weaken G+ any. Then there was a story about Google using people's comments in ads, but I haven't heard anymore about that. Some webmasters are scared of Google, and will jump through all their hoops, but the average internet user doesn't pay much attention to what they want.

[JD_Toims]

Last week YouTube mandated users sign up for Google+, its social network, before commenting on a video, which links a YouTube account to an actual identity. The move touched off an outpouring of criticism, prompting a Change.org petition that’s collected more than 100,000 signatures in less than a week and a host of Reddit users to spam the Google products forum with more than 430,000 complaints. Even YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim questioned the policy on his page in the only other post visible besides his first video upload in 2005.

[business.time.com...]
I'd say the preceding is pretty much a "facial explosion" wrt G+ being required for YouTube commenting.

[aristotle]

I'd say the preceding is pretty much a "facial explosion" wrt G+ being required for YouTube commenting

Well if they want to protest, the most effective ways to do it would be stop using Google search and stop clicking on Google ads.

[nomis5]

Well if they want to protest, the most effective ways to do it would be stop using Google search and stop clicking on Google ads.

It's not an either / or. They are probably doing both.

That petition now has 220,000 supporters.

Given that most people just can't be bothered to do anything normally, I reckon that's a significant number. There must be literally millions out there who haven't signed the petition but have now made a mental note that G is actively trying to coerce them into doing something they do not want to do.