This is why these forums are the best...open minded folks that know whats up, and speak the truth. Unlike the Google forums, where everybody tries to act like a professional / blame the webmaster...when they really aren't..
It's like G is now in black and white instead of technicolor, all the great independents with a fresh view have gone or are being abandoned and we are left with corporate sites with as much personality as a stick.
I'd make that my Sig if these forums allowed sigs..
Google's overall reputation of being there for entrepreneurs , individuals.....seems to be quickly going out the window....heavily favored by corporate and financial interests. The main reason why people initially fell in love with Google is how they offered so many premium features, softwares, programs = for absolutely free. They were the good guys, out of so many other crooked internet franchises.
Now things are going in reverse. Even YouTube lately...the last few months, I could barely find 1 clip without one of those annoying 30 second advertisements that you CAN't fast forward / skip past.
SEO wise ? just as bad. Individuals / Entrepreneurs = our days are over. The rich could hire as much help as they need from all over to get their sites back in the top 5. Whether they hire bad apples from Freelancer , or spend a boat load on white-hat techniques....or back to Freelancer / Black Hat World...to sabotage their competition = no problemo if they have the money.
what u are saying is 100% true
why u are hearing it is the reason that the top ignorants at the google forums keep saying that negative seo is impossible
so it can be only your fault so u can get a new fresh domain to fix
but it is so wrong
ty....and your forum name rules.
and np2003, it's amazing isn't it ? How Google doesn't recognize it's been ruining peoples businesses for so many years now, and still TODAY won't even acknowledge it....or will say it's a very 'isolated' problem.
It's utterly pathetic their denial , i've got more than 1 site that fell victim. And for over a year now, I can't get the hidden penalty lifted...whatever the penalty is. All I know is, I used to be #1 on page 1. Now i'm on page 45 somewhere. The 'penalty' that was done by saboteurs. The 'penalty' that I can't get any answers on...the 'penalty' that numerous SEO guys reviewed my site and can't find 1 reason why it's been thrown back to page 45. The 'penalty' that doesn't fall into their spam review submission process or whatever...because I pass that each and every time. (no spam on the domain ever detected) But meanwhile, i'm still back on page 45 somewhere....with no explanation and nobody to talk to about it.
Business was thriving, and now it's gone completely...and without any explanation. thx Google.