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5:22 pm on Nov 6, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Panda update #21

[searchengineland.com...]

[edited by: tedster at 9:20 pm (utc) on Nov 6, 2012]

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Who has confirmed this? Seems too mild to be a Panda data refresh?!
6:23 pm on Nov 6, 2012 (gmt 0)

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@blend, i d&#305;&#351; not dig so deep, but now i took a deeper look at my logs and yes it i&#351; the same. So what does this mean? Three different data centers or algorithms?
I also see that traffic shapping occures with the upcoming of the non-search-string referrer.
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Yesterday was very good for us, best in weeks. Today is a bit strange, but then again we're a US ecomm site so the elections could be affecting consumers.
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I've seen very missed results yesterday so perhaps there is a settling effect going on. I don't see any improvements on the sites in which I spend great efforts on cleaning up.
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My site returned to page one over the weekend for my most competitive terms after being banished to page three for the last month. Looks like Google updated something, although it varies by platform, browser, and location I have noticed. I am wondering whether Google just corrected its algo from beginning of October or whether my site had a penalty of some sort for dupe content. In the last month the pages reported with dupe titles in WMT dropped from over 1,000 to 25 as I made some changes to my titles. The drop hit only my most competitive searches, not the long tail searches.
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@petehall,
Refreshes can be pretty mild, because there aren't any changes to the Panda algorithm itself. Updates are like a net being trolled through the water, catching stuff as it follows a pre-defined path.

Updates are generally more significant & impact more queries, because that's when they modify the criteria of what qualifies sites for the filter.
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@Sand they can be mild or wild! Having experienced both ends of the spectrum I am well aware of the effects of a data refresh.

I'm just quite surprised as I have some tasty bamboo shoots out there and Panda missed them, assuming there really has been a Panda update.
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One hour ago, on Twitter, "A Googler" tweeted
Panda data refresh rolling out. ~1.1% of English queries noticeably affected.

More context: [googleblog.blogspot.com...]

[edited by: tedster at 3:31 am (utc) on Nov 7, 2012]
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One hour ago, on Twitter, "A Googler" tweeted "Panda data refresh rolling out. ~1.1% of English queries noticeably affected. More context:


So with that, how do we know if it happened on the 5th as Danny Sullivan stated or is currently rolling out as Agoogler says?
10:16 pm on Nov 6, 2012 (gmt 0)

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@Nostalgic Dave

I checked twitter and could see no reference to a Panda update announcement. Also, your link is broken.

I thought Panda might hit between the 7th and 9th based on previous stats. Maybe it's in early stages but I see nothing significant here in the UK.

I know all too well this could be a different story when I wake up...!
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Here's the unbroken link

[twitter.com...]
Panda data refresh rolling out. ~1.1% of English queries noticeably affected.


Which links to Google's thread, "Finding more high-quality sites in search."
[googleblog.blogspot.com...]
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I think it started rolling out since Saturday.
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I agree with you klark0, saw a big jump in referrals Sat night through Monday.
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Nothing here positive or negative so far. Visits dropped off a bit a couple weeks ago, but that's likely industry-related variation (plus probably some loss of lower-quality visits). So far, though, pretty even.
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@klark0 I agree. Started to see movement on Saturday (US time) and it has continued to roll in until today. I don't think it's finished yet though, it's still rolling in.

Actually, it seems that there was a big change earlier today and has since went back.
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@garyr_h

Stuff started to tail off in the USA later in the day. I bet it had a lot to do with the elections. Huge portion of the population is watching and waiting. Not to mention voting!
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I can confirm Saturday for noticing this update too. Still seeing a fair amount of flux so I suspect it is still rolling out.
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.IN search queries also drop . Traffic is 200 less...
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I saw a huge increase in traffic to one of my sites. I don't believe it was previously hit by Panda but it may have. My traffic doubled on the 5th.
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Hit by Panda April 19/20 2012.

Recovered November 4 2012.
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I thought when I got some better metrics that my site will get back, but I dont see any movement at all.

Before my changes :
Bounce rate 82%
Time on site 0.52min

after my changes and total new layout, CMS..
Bounce rate 40%
Time on site 2:20min

and new stats has been that way for a few month.

I slowly think I was never hit by Panda, when I look at my stats it slowly got down and later as example from 25000 to 16.000 but that date where that happen, it dont seem to have been a update.
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Doug10, what kind of changes did you do if you don't mind me asking?
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@muzza64,

We had a site hit by Panda-2 in April 2011. The content was good, the appearance was dated. We made purely cosmetic changes. With a more modern look we saw a quick recovery.

The site I referred to above was again looking rather dated, although less so than the first site that was hit. Again we made cosmetic changes to its appearance and this time we also improved navigation, which had been rather weak. This time we had to wait longer for recovery, which I hope won't be short-term!

In both cases, we made no changes to core site content, which we believe to be strong.
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Looks like a roll back of 20 to me.
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yeah..it look so!
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Doug10, can you elaborate on the navigational improvements you made?
12:44 pm on Nov 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

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They allways talk about english queries are effected. What about germany, france, spain? Is this right that there has been no panda update so far ( besides the panda algo update ) for the other languages since april?
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They allways talk about english queries are effected.


Yep, I have seen a definite bias and shift towards US sites recently, yesterday I was tring to search Google.nl in Dutch ... what a waste of time, three Dutch keywords and only one Dutch answer on the first page, all the rest were US or Chinese ... Pathetic.
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HuskyPup,

where are u located? German serps are a real mess, too.

But, this is not a answer to my question.

Are all non english queries are unaffected by panda ( only by ranking movements from english sites ) ?

I see small shifts but up to now I did not see one "old" pandalized site getting back or gain more traffic.

germany/ecom/ realy bad weather today
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