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Difference between Panda and Penguin



8:49 pm on Sep 25, 2012 (gmt 0)

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I think of myself as an avid learner of understanding Panda, considering how much it affected my income (which I am sure many can relate to).
I would just like to clear up, what I believe to be, the difference between Panda and Penguin.

In a nutshell:
Panda is a measurement of how visitors interact with your site. Which essentially comes down to design, content, features, tools, and intuitiveness.

Penguin is a measurement of how pro-active a webmaster has been in trying to rank their sites higher, whether placing lots of keywords on their pages, or building lots of links.

They are both algorithms, but I would say Penguin could be a lot harder to get out of.


9:30 pm on Sep 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

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So are you haggling over terminology, namely that Google doesn't call an "algorithmic demotion" to be a penalty?

When I see my results not appearing at all, below scrapers, spam, and irrelevant results, that is more than an algorithmic demotion. That is Google saying "we're going to make you wish you hadn't have done what we think you did because if we don't punish you, you'll just try and do it again".


5:12 am on Sep 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Google no longer uses the terminology of "penalty", "penalization", etc. There is now only manual action and algorithmic action.

Yes, it all seems a bit Orwellian to me. But for the sake of understanding the language of Google Speak in their articles, messages and announcements, it's useful to take note of these things. It also helps in tracking the evolution of their internal corporate process.

Robert Charlton

6:01 am on Sep 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

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I guess we worry about why some websites are more equal than others. ;)


10:40 am on Sep 28, 2012 (gmt 0)


Thanks for the update, my doubts are clear as of now, I just wanted to know that I was not effected on the date when panda was updated, but I was hit in the mid day of May, So assuming that I got a manual action from google? Manual action are taken back or not ? I am cleaning up my site completely with all the issues I have on my website.
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